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Member: joann |
Posted on Sunday, Oct 5, 2008 - 8:17 pm: My friend and I were out riding and talking about 1 rein stops; but she mentioned a "calvary stop" so I said I would ask on this website. Anyone heard of this - I googled what I could mostly Civil War, etc. Look to the feedback |
Member: sdms |
Posted on Sunday, Oct 5, 2008 - 8:59 pm: Hi JoAnn. There was a good article in Western Horseman by Curt Pate that described this type of stop. Here's a link to what they have online. If you're interested in reading the whole article I'll see if I can track down the magazine and scan it for you.https://westernhorseman.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=168&Itemid= 77 ~Sara |
Member: sdms |
Posted on Sunday, Oct 5, 2008 - 9:20 pm: Well, I decided to refresh my own memory and track down the article to read it again. I think the file is too big to attach to the post but if you're interested I can e-mail it to you.~Sara |
Member: ajudson1 |
Posted on Sunday, Oct 5, 2008 - 9:22 pm: Sara,Can you tell us the correct way to do the calvary stop? I think this was discussed on here at some point, and I am thinking it means resting one hand on the horses neck, pulling UP sharply on both reins. Or is it one rein straight up? Or is that for bucking? Hmmmm.... Good question Joann, and the article by Curt tells us the downside of what most of us think of when we hear one rein stop. I also wish clinicians would get away from that phrase as many people don't understand the disengagement of the hindquarters as being part of it. |
Member: sdms |
Posted on Sunday, Oct 5, 2008 - 10:51 pm: Hi, Angie. Basically, a cavalry stop is designed to keep the horse straight and keep the horse and rider balanced. The rider "sets" one rein to keep the head straight then lifts the other rein straight up to stop the forward movement. Of course, this is reducing a 5 page article to just a couple of sentences!I'll send you the article and you can look through it if you like. It's kind of big...hope you have high speed! ~Sara |
Member: lilo |
Posted on Monday, Oct 6, 2008 - 9:51 am: Sara - I am interested in this also - and you have my email address. Would you mind sending it to me?I have not focused on the one rein stop - mainly because our trails are narrow - with steep DrOp-offs occasionally - not really much room to disengage the hindquarters. Thanks, Lilo |
Member: sdms |
Posted on Monday, Oct 6, 2008 - 12:40 pm: Hi, Lilo! It should be in your inbox now. Let me know if you did not receive it.Sara |
Member: ajudson1 |
Posted on Monday, Oct 6, 2008 - 1:46 pm: Great to have another technique for checking a horses speed, anxious to try it with little miss Willow, (the kinda almost sway backed mare)I have raised both reins to get her head DOWN. So how this will work with her, hmmmmm....but she will go fast with her shoulder leading and head around, and this makes sense to keep her straight and not fall down. |
Member: scooter |
Posted on Monday, Oct 6, 2008 - 5:54 pm: Do you think it is the same as a pulley rein stop??? It sounds similar and let me tell you that will stop a run away train!https://www.mindspring.com/~jonknop/horse/049702.htm |
Member: sdms |
Posted on Monday, Oct 6, 2008 - 7:05 pm: Hi, Diane. Actually, from the sounds of it the pulley rein stop is probably somewhere between the one-rein stop and the cavalry style stop. The pulley rein sets one rein and pulls back on the other while the cavalry style sets one rein and pulls straight up on the other. Here's a picture from the article. |
Member: dtranch |
Posted on Tuesday, Oct 7, 2008 - 5:59 am: I actually use both methods, and prefer the one rein stop because of the totality of the exercise disengaging the rear, and calming the horse. I think the point we are all missing here is that neither is a substitute for "training". They both are in fact part of training. If we choose to use either of these methods, or any other method, only in emergency situations, they will all fail.Our responsibility is to help the horse ... and rider ... build confidence and control in bad situations in order to avoid "emergency" measures. We want to use these methods to avoid dangerous situations by being a proactive rider and anticipating problems. Build a solid foundation in both horse and rider, and we can avoid many of these situations. DT |
Member: maggienm |
Posted on Tuesday, Oct 7, 2008 - 10:07 am: Great advice as always, Dennis.Are you suggesting that these emergency stops be practiced in order to be effective? I have wondered if trying to use the one rein stop on a bolting or freaking out horse would cause the horse to lose its balance and fall? |
Member: dtranch |
Posted on Tuesday, Oct 7, 2008 - 10:44 am: Absolutely Lori .... Practice, practice, practice. The response must be automatic for the rider, and the horse should know immediately what we are asking because we have done it so many times. The idea is to get control of the situation "before" it becomes and emergency.DT |
Member: lilo |
Posted on Tuesday, Oct 7, 2008 - 7:57 pm: Sara - I have received your email - thanks.Dennis - you are correct, they need to be practiced. I would like to try both and see how the horses respond. My daughter-in-law is learning to ride (has been on horses before, but more as a passenger) and I think it would give her confidence if she practiced something like this - just in case. Lilo |
Member: maggienm |
Posted on Tuesday, Oct 7, 2008 - 9:58 pm: So I guess you would have to practice on the ground first. |
Member: dtranch |
Posted on Tuesday, Oct 7, 2008 - 10:07 pm: Yep .... build that foundation from the ground up.DT |
New Member: cmr41 |
Posted on Monday, Feb 16, 2009 - 9:09 pm: I have just read the posts from October 2008 on the Calvary Stop and would like to get a copy of that 2007 article in Western Horseman by Curt Pate on that subject. Is there anyone who can help me? |
Member: sdms |
Posted on Monday, Feb 16, 2009 - 11:27 pm: Hi Claudette. Welcome to HA! I still have the article on my PC. If you'll shoot me an e-mail (see my profile for e-mail address) I'll send you a copy.~Sara |