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Discussion on Tricks for giving Bute
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Lorrieg
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Posted on Saturday, Jan 31, 2004 - 9:41 pm:
Does anyone out there have any good tricks for giving powered Bute? I've tried the apple flavored kind with no luck, my mare will simply just not eat. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Lorrie
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Member:
Rjbraun
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Posted on Saturday, Jan 31, 2004 - 10:07 pm:
Have you tried the tube type?
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Member:
Lorrieg
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Posted on Saturday, Jan 31, 2004 - 10:38 pm:
Yes, and that does work, but I have a whole container of the powder kind that I don't want to just waste. I was hoping that someone might know something that I could mix it with and use in a syringe.
Thanks,
Lorrie
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Member:
Hwood
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Posted on Saturday, Jan 31, 2004 - 10:39 pm:
Hi, Lorrie,
If you mix the powdered bute, or crushed tablets, with strained baby food carrots or applesauce, and put it in a syringe with the tip cut off, I have found that it works well. Also, if you have a horse that refuses tubes of wormer paste or other meds, I have found that first bitting the horse, and THEN inserting the tube on top of the tongue is much easier and has never failed with the many horses with which I've tried it.
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Member:
Lorrieg
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Posted on Saturday, Jan 31, 2004 - 11:30 pm:
Hi Holly
Thanks for the suggestions, I will try the applesauce. Also, you're idea about bitting them up is very clever. I'll have to try that!
Thanks again,
Lorrie
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Member:
Bonita
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Posted on Sunday, Feb 1, 2004 - 7:32 am:
What I do is mix the bute with a good-sized dollop of molasses, add a few DrOps of water (just enough to make the molasses a little thinner), then spoon it into an old clean worming or dose syringe & shoot it in.
Several of my horses will even eat it this way mixed into sweet feed. I just add a little more molasses.
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Member:
Gingin
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Posted on Sunday, Feb 1, 2004 - 11:24 am:
I know someone who swears by mixing molasses and pancake syrup...this is supposed to mask the taste of the nastiest drugs :-)
Christine
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Member:
Lorrieg
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Posted on Sunday, Feb 1, 2004 - 1:10 pm:
Hey Holly,
I tried the bitting up idea this morning, it worked great! Thanks again, and thanks to everyone for your suggestions.
Lorrie
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Member:
Hwood
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Posted on Sunday, Feb 1, 2004 - 2:56 pm:
Neat, Lorrie . . . Glad it worked . . . takes the fight and fear out of giving oral meds. Thanks for letting us know.
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Member:
Suzeb
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Posted on Sunday, Feb 1, 2004 - 8:13 pm:
Lorrie,
Coming from someone who has the privilege of obtaining "Cherry flavoured powdered Bute", you could try adding some cherry or grape flavoured powdered geletin and adding some water. Add this mixture to whatever nuts or supplements you might give your mare. Hope this helps.
Susan B.
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Member:
Lorrieg
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Posted on Sunday, Feb 1, 2004 - 10:04 pm:
Hey Susan,
Thanks, I'll give that a try too!
Have a good one!
Lorrie
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New Member:
Jbmom
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Posted on Monday, Feb 2, 2004 - 8:52 pm:
Hi,
Because it has been so cold I have been giving my gelding a warm drink treat of molasses flavored warm water with a little apple juice. He loves it slups up every DrOp. Well this weekend he pulled a muscle and I gave him a dose of bute and robaxin pulvrised and disolved it in some of his "toddy." He didn't leave a DrOp.
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Member:
Lorrieg
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Posted on Tuesday, Feb 3, 2004 - 9:58 pm:
Thanks Diane!
I'll give that a try, it sounds pretty tasty!
Lorrie
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Member:
Cowgrl
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Posted on Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 - 4:32 pm:
I hollowed out a carrot and filled it with bute then put the top back on. My filly ate it fine but did curl her lip. It's a bit labor intensive so next time I'm going to try while bitted or with molasses and syrup.
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Member:
Shirl
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Posted on Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 - 4:46 pm:
For any small capsule, such as Pergolide for Cushing's horses, I hollow out a small piece of carrot, insert pill, down it goes. Would work for any size capsule as long as the carrot was larger. When they get used to that trick, you can also make a hole in an apple quarter. I use the end of a carrot peeler for both. Shirl
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Member:
Mullenss
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Posted on Tuesday, Nov 22, 2005 - 10:10 am:
Wondering if anyone has any additional tricks for giving nasty tasting oral medications over a long period? My 22 year old arab mare is being treated for internal pigeon fever abscesses which has meant regular bute, cimetidine (which I grind into a powder) and soon a powdered antibiotic. Since she needs these meds for weeks, the tricks to get one dose in don't work. I've tried to mask the taste with molasses, applesauce, syrup, jello in a syringe and the unless I add an awful lot, the taste is still very bitter!! (I tried it). She's beginning to resent the oral syringe much more than the daily injections she gets. I wonder if there is any harm to all the sugar she is getting, or should I just add enough so it's not so bad tasting. I also worry that she's going to start hating to see me coming out! Thanks for any help!
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Member:
Dres
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Posted on Tuesday, Nov 22, 2005 - 10:22 am:
Maybe you can give her a tube or three of pure applesauce without the meds... I know I have done this with a gelding I had that had to be medicated... It got to the point you describe, he would not accept the syringe... after getting several pure applesauce tubes he became more willing.... good luck...
On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with SPOTS..
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Member:
Tpmiller
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Posted on Tuesday, Nov 22, 2005 - 10:25 am:
We microwave pills/powders in a water/karo solution and stir in feed.
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Member:
Miamoo
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Posted on Tuesday, Nov 22, 2005 - 10:28 am:
Any time I need to put any medicine in a substance to syringe in, I crush it up (unless it is already a powder) and mix it with mayonaise. The consistency is perfect (it is not sticky like molasses) and the horses don't seem to mind the flavor.
Ella
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Member:
Eoeo
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Posted on Tuesday, Nov 22, 2005 - 11:02 am:
I would be worried about the heat from a microwave messing up the medicines. DR O, what is your take on that? EO
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Member:
Tpmiller
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Posted on Tuesday, Nov 22, 2005 - 11:35 am:
Work in a pill mfg. plant.
Lab folk tell me nothing changes but the form, not the formula.
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Member:
Mullenss
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Posted on Tuesday, Nov 22, 2005 - 12:38 pm:
thanks for all the tricks. I have some new things to try. the internet really is amazing as are all the people out there who love horses.
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Member:
Eoeo
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Posted on Tuesday, Nov 22, 2005 - 12:48 pm:
Thanks for the info Timothy. Good To Know. EO
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New Member:
Bronwynw
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Posted on Wednesday, Nov 23, 2005 - 2:09 am:
I just use sunflower oil. I first put the bute in a syringe then pour the oil in and mix it with the back of a teaspoon. I squirt it up the side of the mouth. One just has to make sure that there is no other food in the mouth or they spit everything out.
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Moderator:
DrO
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Posted on Wednesday, Nov 23, 2005 - 5:54 am:
I agree the effect of the microwave on the drugs is uncertain and potentially cause breakdown. Microwave the binder to warm it up no hotter than is comfortable to handle then add the medication.
DrO
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Member:
Frances
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Posted on Wednesday, Nov 23, 2005 - 9:14 am:
I sprinkle Bute powder in a honey sandwich, or else drizzle honey in a partially-hollowed out apple, add the powder, replace the apple top, but make sure there's some bread & honey underneath to catch any Bute that's escaped.
Whichever I do, I present the "treat" in a plastic bowl to keep all the bits together.
Not sure this would work on a daily basis though ...
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Member:
Sswiley
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Posted on Wednesday, Nov 23, 2005 - 10:55 am:
I posted a question about 2 months ago about making horse cookies and putting meds in them. There was a Pharmacist that responed and said that all meds respond differently to heat. I dont think he said anything about bute cause its a horse med but some meds degrade quite a bit in heat. My question was on glucosamine and conDrOitine. I was glad I asked; one of those two degraded quite a bit in even moderate heat.
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