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Discussion on Looks like blister - tooth erupting?
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imogen
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Posted on Monday, Nov 12, 2007 - 2:05 am:
Hi Dr O
My 2 1/2 yo horse has a point on her lower gum about an inch behind the front teeth that looks like a large blister (about half a cm, slightly oval in shape) and she is chewing anything she can find in the field eg tree stumps.
After reading the article, and given her age, am I likely to be correct to assume that this is just the central incisor erupting on one side? There is a very faint mark on the other side of the jaw at the same point but it might just be a variation in colour in the lower gum. Do both usually arrive together or can one be before the other?
Thanks
Imogen
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DrO
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Posted on Monday, Nov 12, 2007 - 7:03 am:
Yes this very well could be the incisor erupting Imogen and they usually arrive a little different from each other.
DrO
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jwsmith
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Posted on Thursday, Sep 24, 2009 - 10:25 pm:
Hi Dr. O - I have been looking for topics about teeth erupting. My mini (5 years old) has four points just behind his front teeth (two on the bottom and two on the top). The left side bottom has not broke through the skin yet. The right side bottom has broken through the skin. He was floated last fall but not this spring. I have done very little with him, but decided to take him to a show last weekend. At home he seemed fussy with the bit, but he has always done that so I didn't think too much about it. At the show he was really fussy and was "over breaking at the poll". The judge felt that he was in pain. After watching a video of myself, I felt awful! I checked his mouth and found these points in his mouth. DJ was definitely not comfortable. I couldn't find any info on these small teeth, so before I call the vet, could you give me some insight? The left side picture has a white line drawn along the gum line and the arrow is the area of the point. The right side has a box drawn around it.
Thanks!   
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DrO
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Posted on Friday, Sep 25, 2009 - 7:31 am:
Welcome Jeanne,
These are the canines though small and a bit forward placed when compared with average. In one case the tooth remains uninterrupted, a common finding when they are small. There may still be some growth in them as they can erupt quite late. However none of this is likely to be irritating to your horses mouth as they lie well forward of the bit. Neither do they show signs of irritation though the exposed piece may be covered in plaque which should be removed during a regular veterinarians visit. Be sure to not confuse these with the "wolf teeth" which lie further back. The article associated with this discussion has images of both.
I think his age and that you have done little with him are very likely to be the reasons for poor biting and is a common problem with many horses even when well trained at this age. If you really feel the mouth is in pain you should have the mouth examined for other problems before proceeding with a training plan designed to get him to accept the bit better.
DrO
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jwsmith
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Posted on Friday, Sep 25, 2009 - 9:01 pm:
Thanks! Overall, my gut feeling is that he is out of shape and he is adjusting his head carriage to compensate. But when I started to palp his gum line, he was extremely fussy so I wanted to explore that first. He is due to have his teeth done, so that will be done anyway. I thought that maybe the pressure of the bit, even though a ways away from these teeth still could contribute to some pulling or pressure on the gums. I have really light hands so it concerns me that he was "over breaking" at the poll so much. Well, we are on a fitness plan (lungeing and bitless ground driving) for a while then after his teeth are done, back to the cart. I am going to switch to a straight bar just to see how he responds to that. Thanks again. I love this website!
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rtrotter
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Posted on Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 - 7:01 am:
Jeanne,
There were two things I thought of when I read your post(and by the way that's a nice picture). The first thing was did you adjust his bridle?
I know he is a mini, but his head does grow and when I look at the picture it appears that the bridle might be a bit too tight. Sometimes it doesn't take much and the fact that he hadn't done anything for a while makes me think he might have grown a bit. I do not see you pulling on the lines as their is some slack, so he should not be resisting as much as he is showing in the picture.
The second thing is try and find some Sealtex for his bit before you change the type of bit you use. This is a stretchy kind of tape that you can wrap his bit with. You don't need a lot, and it sticks to itself. You just have to pull it taut to make it tight and smooth.
Hope you can find the answer.
Rachelle
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jwsmith
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Posted on Sunday, Sep 27, 2009 - 3:17 pm:
Thanks Rachelle,
This picture isn't very good to show bridle adjustment - it looks tight but its not. Actually the bit sits a little low in his mouth because I can't adjust it any tighter.
He was shown in July by a 4-Her and didn't do any of this. He had a couple of months off, put on a few pounds and now he is overbreaking at the poll.
I will look into the Sealtex. I do however want to try a straight bar driving bit to see how he responds to that. My trainer feels that he will fuss less with that than the snaffle. He needs some major fitness work as well!
He is due to have his teeth check anyway! We'll see how this all plays out!
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