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  Discussion on Over-reach no turn bell boots
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Member:
Quatro

Posted on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 - 6:40 pm:

Levi has again thrown a shoe. He just had these put on and I could not figure out how he keeps this up. Last time we thought it was the mud, but it is dry now. My gal that works for me said her horse would do that often, from over reaching when he would run and play. Levi's shoes have a bit of an edge on them at the heel because of the way his heel is growing. The way they are all bent when I find them it makes sense that he is stepping on the back of them and ripping them off. She said she put the over-reach boots on her horse and it helped. I have 2 questions? Has anyone else used these, and would this solve the problem? and also how do you measure what size to get s-m-l-xl. they said the m is 4.5 wide, 4"tall, large is 4.5 wide and 5"tall. but she did not know what i was measuring? Anyone else know??
thanks
suz
Member:
Dres

Posted on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 - 8:26 pm:

Susan, my gelding lives in his 'gummy' bell boots... when I bring him in at night I just flip them up so that the hoof can breath... I don't know if this is necessary I just to it..
the gummy boots are cheaper then the other bells.. they are just harder to take on and off... thus the reason I just flip 'me... to measure have the boot cover the whole hoof , especially over the heel.. that is where they usually catch themselves.... Welcome to my world of boots...

On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with SPOTS..
Moderator:
DrO

Posted on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 6:35 am:

Hello Suz,
The bent shoe is diagnostic for snatching them off with the rear foot. Standard treatment is to be sure the shoe does not extend behind the heel, beveling the ground surface of each end of the shoes heels so that there is less contact area for the rear foot to catch, and squaring the front toes (earlier lift off) and the hind toes (less reach).
DrO
Member:
Quatro

Posted on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 7:33 am:

Thanks,I will pass this on to the farrier on Friday. It is always something with this boy of mine.
Member:
Chohler

Posted on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 6:11 pm:

My farrier always squares the toes for my boys and make sure there isn't a lip on the back, the only time I still need bell boots is when I work them in the arena. If I get my paddocks to dry out I will take a pic for you I just had them trimmed.
Member:
Kcovell

Posted on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 7:19 pm:

Susan,
I've used bell/overreach boots on my mare when she is let out to play in the pasture and she has never lost a shoe when she's had them on. Quick-wrap bell boots are also good once you figure out how to put them on.
I've always used a medium on her in the Classic Equine Dyno No Turn, Professional Choice Secure Fit Overreach boots and the Quick-Wrap. There is a company called Pro Ortho where she could wear a small, but I didn't think it covered enough in the back so I got the medium, which is alittle big on her.
If you decide to try bell/overreach boots maybe this will help. Unless he has big feet I'd go with the medium.
KC
Member:
Quatro

Posted on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 11:17 pm:

Thanks KC, I ordered a pair of "hi-teck overreach boots in a large. Levi has wide feet,not very tall, but wide. I wish I would have questioned everybody on this the first time he lost his shoe. It makes so much sense that this is what happened the last time. Unfortunately, he has thin walls, so they are pretty cracked up now where the nails got ripped out. I have been keeping him in his big mac boot until the farrier gets here on friday. He is heading out to the trainers on Saturday. So I hope I can get this resolved so he can learn a few things. I am heading off to Phoenix for a week of spa spoiling with my girl friends! I hope to come back to a well trained, well mannered horse to ride into the sunset.
I will let you all know how the boots work out. This horse has more added bling than I do!
thanks
suz
Member:
Kcovell

Posted on Sunday, May 8, 2005 - 5:28 am:

Susan
You have too much fun. I'm jealous!!
What brand of overrach boot did you get? You know I'm always looking to try something, even if what I'm doing works.

KC :-)
Member:
Paul303

Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 3:50 am:

I've had two horses where squareing the back toes solved the problem. They were both slightly short coupled. It also improved their gaits. Check and see if there is any scuffing or wearing on the back toes.
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