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Discussion on Farriers2
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Member:
leslie1
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Posted on Tuesday, Jul 14, 2009 - 9:13 pm:
Just wondering if your farriers forge their own shoes? If so, do you feel obligated to use their stuff? Or have you said "hmmmm I think I want to try something off the shelf?" 
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Member:
shanson
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Posted on Tuesday, Jul 14, 2009 - 9:30 pm:
Mine hot shoes, but starts with off-the-shelf shoes that he customizes on the forge.
Why do you ask?
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Member:
scooter
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Posted on Tuesday, Jul 14, 2009 - 9:55 pm:
I tell them what I am interested in trying...get their input, and then they pick them up or order what I want to try. That way they feel involved
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Member:
leslie1
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Posted on Tuesday, Jul 14, 2009 - 10:01 pm:
Hi Sharon,
I wanna try the yasha shoes. I had a hard time getting a farrier and dont want to loose him. I think he may take great pride in that he forges his own shoes. Not in a bad, snooty way, just that he has gone thru all his certifations to CJF and wants to forge his own stuff. Im wondering if its a huge faux-pax to ask him.
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Member:
rtrotter
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Posted on Wednesday, Jul 15, 2009 - 7:34 am:
Leslie,
Its funny that this question has come up because I was researching this at the beginning of this week for one of my own horses that I think will benefit from these shoes.
You can have the best of both worlds. One of the trainers on my farm that is using these shoes has his farrier do all the preliminary stuff, trimming, making the shoes, adding the borium etc and then sends them to Tenderhoof solutions for them to apply the pad. Then the farrier comes back, cleans up the foot and puts the already fitted shoes on the horse. I am waiting to find out the turnaround time for Tenderhoof to get the shoes back to the trainer and I will let you know how quick they are.
I am lucky, my horse after being properly trimmed fits in shoes with very little shape change right out of the box and really does not need any hot shoeing at all.
Rachelle
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Member:
rtrotter
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Posted on Wednesday, Jul 15, 2009 - 7:50 am:
An additional comment.
While the shoes bought directly from Yasha will work, they almost have to be a correct fit out of the box (with maybe some shaping) as the pads have already been applied. But , the back of the shoe by the heel, really shouldn't be touched as far as shortening it because you would then lose some of the benefit of the pad.
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Member:
dres
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Posted on Wednesday, Jul 15, 2009 - 9:38 am:
My horse has more or less a standard platter shaped hoof , except the buttress shaped one that has the extensor processor fracture.. but the yasha shoe is easy to shape up to fit that hoof.. I order the shoes and get them within a week.. but that is not me sending and waiting for them to come back. ... My farrier welcomes the shoe.. he sees the benefit and is happy to put them on.. no nose bent on him...
On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with spots..
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Member:
frances
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Posted on Wednesday, Jul 15, 2009 - 12:46 pm:
Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is a yasha shoe? How is it different from other shoes, and does it always come with a pad?
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Member:
shanson
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Posted on Wednesday, Jul 15, 2009 - 2:23 pm:
No idea what a Yasha shoe is, but it's not a faux pas to ask your farrier about it. Heck, maybe he can build the same shoe on the forge for you, but it would be completely custom.
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dres
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Posted on Wednesday, Jul 15, 2009 - 2:36 pm:
https://tenderhoof.com/m_33.asp here is the Yasha shoe..
On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with spots..
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Member:
rtrotter
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Posted on Wednesday, Jul 15, 2009 - 3:09 pm:
Actually, it is the special pad applied to any type of shoe that makes it a
Yasha shoe. If you remember all the hub bub about Big Brown and his hoof
problems. This is what they used on him.
The pad is a combination of 2 different durometers(hardness) of rubber( I
think) a softer,very resilient but durable part that fits under the heel to
absorb concussion and a harder part that goes around the rest of the foot.
I believe the design is patented and I do not think that most farriers would
go through the time and trouble to put this type of pad together, although I
do know some who have tried and the results were not good.
Ian McKinlay himself will be at our farm to deliver a set of shoes( sent to
him made up for pad application) later this week. I am going to try and
speak with him about the cost and time requirements for getting the shoes
back once they are produced by the farrier.
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Member:
dres
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Posted on Wednesday, Jul 15, 2009 - 5:05 pm:
R i think there is a special shoe as well / different blends of metals and it bends etc.. but yes they can apply the pad to any shoe..I asked my farrier what shoe for my horse / size etc.. and sent the info on to them.. They are WONDERFUL folks .. very friendly and helpful..
On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with spots..
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Member:
rtrotter
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Posted on Wednesday, Jul 15, 2009 - 7:01 pm:
Ann,
I believe the shoe you are referring to is called a Racer shoe. Its made in Europe and the shoe flexes, but does not bend. You can buy them with or without the Yasha pad, but you must have the right size because the shoe is almost next to impossible to work with.
Some Standardbred trainers use them because supposedly they help horses get around the turns better. There is also less distance from the hoof to the ground in these shoes so there is some additional frog pressure not available in other shoes.
Rachelle
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Member:
frances
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Posted on Thursday, Jul 16, 2009 - 12:52 am:
Thanks for the answers. I had googled it, but I couldn't really understand from the website whether all the shoe types shown were yashas or the pads alone were yashas.
And it's only the Racer that flexes is it? That sounds wonderful, a shoe that goes with the hoof (except perhaps in circumstances where the hoof needs stabilising).
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Member:
gramsey1
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Posted on Thursday, Jul 16, 2009 - 10:26 pm:
I contacted them for shoes. They were way to big for our size 0 TB or our size 00 Quarterhorse pony. Very interesting shoes though. I would love to put my horses in them, the flexible type designed for trotters, but in smaller sizes.
I think they would make a shoe for our warm blood, Blue. But, he is not working now and seems to be doing fine barefoot.
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