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Discussion on How to locate a barefoot trimmer?
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Member:
marieanh
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 - 3:33 pm:
Hi,
Is anyone aware of any resources for locating farriers trained in or using the four point trim?
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Member:
ajudson1
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 - 9:31 pm:
https://www.thehorseshoof.com/trimmerlocate.html
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Member:
marieanh
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 - 9:35 pm:
thank you
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Member:
ajudson1
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 - 9:36 pm:
This lists by region.
https://www.thehorseshoof.com/trimmers.html
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Member:
rtrotter
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Posted on Thursday, Oct 1, 2009 - 7:55 am:
Marie,
Here is the link for finding a DAEP trimmer in your area. Do not be put off by the distance away from you if its far, my DAEP trimmer travels over 4 states to get to the horses he trims.
You might want to check out the articles and information on this website and I'd make a trip to You tube and check out some of the videos under barefoot trimming. It will help you to understand the entire process and 'educate' you on what you can do to help your horse.
https://www.appliedequinepodiatry.org/iaep/locate.html#US
My trimmer brought up a very interesting point. He has just come back from a 3 day educational junket where some of the best farriers and trimmers attended and took part in different demonstrations of new products and techniques.
In one of the presentations Ian Mckinley (Big Brown, Yasha shoes) made a statement about the percentage of farriers that are educated enough to understand the form and function of a horse's foot and were up to date on new research or had had any additional training since they started shoeing horses or were willing to change for the betterment of the horse. It was 3%, that means 97% of the farriers in the US are basing their decisions on old outdated information and in effect are not up to par ( I won't say incompetent, but very close) and we as owners and trainers let them do it because we are not educated ourselves. Once we do get 'educated' we feel guilty because we didn't see it sooner.
Luckily for us, our horses are very forgiving and once we identify and fix the problems we get back the horse we once knew and smack ourselves for not doing something sooner.
If your farrier/trimmer fits in that 3% thats great, if he fits into that other 97%, find yourself a new farrier, one that understands and cares for your horse.
But, really my first move would be to understand what bare foot is and the process that your horse will undergo before he has rock crunching hooves.
Good luck in your search and please come back here and ask questions when you don't under stand something. You are making the right move to care for your horse.
Rachelle
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Member:
scooter
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Posted on Thursday, Oct 1, 2009 - 8:17 am:
I agree with Rachelle and Angie, I do want to add that sometimes the farrier you have is willing to learn right along with you too. I don't have much in the choice of farriers because of my location and really can't afford to have one "shipped in"
Since I have been trying to educate myself on here and other websites, I am able to tell my farrier what I want. He has made mistakes along the way, but the end result has been good, however he doesn't take offense to my opinions, as a lot of farriers would (my old farrier was like this)
The more you educate yourself the better off you will be, that way you will know if things are getting done right and if you have questions, bring them here. I took pictures of Hanks hooves every month during his transition, matter of fact I gave up for awhile it was all so overwhelming and discouraging.
Good Luck Marie it sometimes is a lot of trial and error, all horses are different for what works for them, even with a good farrier or bare foot trimmer
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ajudson1
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Posted on Thursday, Oct 1, 2009 - 9:10 am:
Rachelle,
Thanks for the link, I have been reading on it, very interesting. I would love to have one of the farriers in the 3% stop by and examine my horses, comment on my trimming, and give me guidance. I know that with a few tweaks, and a tad bit different technique, my horses would be so much more comfortable. Not that they are not comfortable now, they SEEM fine.
I hope in the future to take a course on trimming myself. Maybe when our youngest graduates.
Ditto to the rest of what you say, and what Diane says. Especially about the frustration and giving up! How something so easy looking got to be so hard for me, I just don't know. I consider myself of average intelligence, but this trimming really humbled me, lol!
You CANNOT be a trimmer with just knowledge of what the outside of the hoof looks like. Let me say that again: You CANNOT be a trimmer with just knowledge of what the outside of the hoof looks like. Or what you think it should look like.
I am still lacking in that area; a lot to learn.
If your hoof person just takes off excess, levels the hoof, cuts away the frog & bars, and calls it good, I think at this point in my life, I would be showing this person the door.
BTW, I don't mean by taking x-rays, I mean knowledge of the whole hoof mechanism and how it affects the whole body. (Not against x-rays! Let me be clear on that.)
We will cry with you, and rejoice with you as things progress for Robie. He will be fine!
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Member:
marieanh
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Posted on Thursday, Oct 1, 2009 - 9:24 am:
Thanks all.
Diane, I am crossing my fingers my current farrier will work with me-I am hoping the vet who I get to do the xrays will help, I know he has worked with the farrier in the past and the farrier respects his opinion. If not, then I keep looking.
I have printed out a bunch of articles and will set aside some time Sunday to go over them. I may need a 3 d model to help but for the time being will borrow one of the barefoot horse at the barn. I am also going to see if there are any clinics/seminars around I could attend.
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Member:
scooter
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Posted on Thursday, Oct 1, 2009 - 11:50 am:
Marie just keep a critical, educated eye on his hooves. Some farriers do have the skills, but they don't implement them until we give them a little nudge and show them we do know what we are talking about. I think they probably just get dull because a lot of people don''t care or know what their horses hooves should look like until they start falling apart. I was one of those persons also, after all they are suppose to be the professionals.
The articles on HA are the best you can find. They did confuse me a bit sometimes .
Dr.O. and the members can help out on that point tho... Please don't feel stupid asking any questions, if you went through all my posts on Hanks hooves in here (which would take a year
 ) you would see a lot of stupid questions. Of course I am old and don't mind making a fool of myself anymore
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Member:
stek
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Posted on Thursday, Oct 1, 2009 - 5:58 pm:
Marie Anne, one thing I'd recommend with any new farrier is to ask for references and speak to some of the people they have worked for. Even better would be to see in person some of the horses they work on.
Also when interviewing the new farrier (yes, you are hiring them as an employee, don't forget that!) be clear about your goals for your horse and explain what you want, but don't be afraid to ask what they think is the best course of action.
Finally make sure you are always present when your horse is being worked on.
Good luck in your search!
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Member:
npo33901
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Posted on Wednesday, Oct 7, 2009 - 8:00 am:
Rachelle - many , many thanks for the link . I have a problem with my horse and and will now contact Sharon in Spain .Hope she 'll be able to help us in Portugal .
My computer was not working for a L o n g time .
Thanks again , FAME.
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