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Member: shedwall |
Posted on Thursday, Oct 29, 2009 - 2:50 pm: I am asking this question because I had decided not to vaccinate my horses this fall after the Spring episode involving the death of Maximo. When my vet came to float teeth - well check - sheath clean, etc. she told me my horses absolutely had to have the Rabies vaccine. Against my better judgement I let her vaccinate them. This was on Monday - on Wednesday - all of my horses (4 of them) had massive swelling on their chests. Vet came and gave IV Banamine on Wednesday - no noticeable improvement today.When she was preparing their vaccinations she mentioned that everything was frozen that morning when she went out on her first call. (My horses were seen at 2:30 that afternoon). Can the Rabies vaccination having been frozen and then thawed caused the reaction in all four of my horses? |
Member: scooter |
Posted on Thursday, Oct 29, 2009 - 3:48 pm: Shelley I don't know if that can make a reaction worse or not. I do know MY horses had bad reactions to the Fort Dodge brand, especially the rabies vac.Next time maybe try a different brand, I had VERY good luck with the intervet brand (equi rab) didn't even get a lump |
Member: shedwall |
Posted on Thursday, Oct 29, 2009 - 4:19 pm: Thanks for the input. My vet told me that the Rabies vaccine was not Ft. Dodge - but I will ask her what she used. Hard to believe all 4 of them at the same time. Its getting to the point where I am not comfortable vaccinating them for anything! |
Moderator: DrO |
Posted on Thursday, Oct 29, 2009 - 7:15 pm: Hello Shelly,You should strongly consider continuing the NSAID therapy at high end doses. It may take a day or two for it to help and if it is not infection it will help. I notice the swelling was in the chest and not the neck, where was the vaccine given? Also what was the body temperature of your horses. And is it possible for us to have images of these swellings? To answer your direct question on freezing and its effect on vaccines, your veterinarian needs to call the vaccine company's technical service and get a opinion on this. Did your veterinarian say the vaccines themselves were frozen, in general I find vaccines have very low freezing points though I know some parts of CO is having exceptionally cold weather at this time. Despite single digit temperatures for a number of days back in the eighties, my insulated medicine box did not have freezing vaccines. The gentocin and flunixin iced a little but not the vaccines. If you have rabies in your area, I would consider this an essential vaccine. Your death by rabies would make your current problems very minor in comparison. Having been intimately involved in two cases where humans were exposed through unvaccinated horses, I think twice about working on sick horses not vaccinated for it. This is not a disease to fool around with. We just need to find a way to do this with minimal problems. DrO |
Member: lilo |
Posted on Friday, Oct 30, 2009 - 9:55 am: Shelley,I live in Colorado also, and upon recommendation by my vet they had their second Rabies vaccination this fall (first one was last fall). Absolutely no reaction. I don't know which vaccine he used. That said, my horses generally have no reaction to any of the vaccines. One time the gelding had a stiff neck, but we thought it was because he fought the vet and would not hold still. Not he gets them in the rump (with difficulty), but no more reactions. Lilo |