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Discussion on Anuhea's Feet
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Member:
leilani
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Posted on Monday, Mar 1, 2010 - 12:56 pm:
Ok, backstory. Anuhea has been barefoot since August of 2006. She was trimmed by a farrier, but there was something about her feet I didn't like. I finally found a certified barefoot trimmer last October and she is working with me so that I can trim both mare's feet myself.
According to the information I have read, once the feet are trimmed correctly, they will start to change. Her bars and heels have never looked like they do now. She has not been sore or off, but I not sure if I am too conservative with my trimming.
Let me know what you folks think. And thank you again for your help. It was the KB was was my undoing. Leilani
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Member:
scooter
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Posted on Monday, Mar 1, 2010 - 4:28 pm:
Leilani you are going to have to take more views for us to form an opinion I think... Go to Hanks last part and see the pics I took if you could pick a hoof and take them views it may help... I know it would me... but I don't know much either!
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Moderator:
DrO
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Posted on Monday, Mar 1, 2010 - 6:20 pm:
The problem with critiquing your trimming Leilani is that we don't know what you started with. So let's discuss the conformation seen above.
A consistent problem I see in the above images is that all feet have mild to moderately contracted heels as evidence by the closing up of the central sulcus of the frog and the short distance between the heels bulbs. This occurs when heels are left too long and if it happens early enough and long enough in the horse's life may be a permanent change.
Would you say the heels are growing closer together or further apart? Conformation shots of the feet on the ground taken from the side and the front should be included to further evaluate the trimming. It is also helpful for us to know how long has it been since the above feet were trimmed.
DrO
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Member:
rtrotter
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Posted on Monday, Mar 1, 2010 - 6:23 pm:
Also,
If you could label the feet it would also be helpful. Some conformation shots from front( chest to feet) Side ( square if possible) and from the back ( hips to feet).
I know lots to ask for (at your convenience of course)
Rachelle
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Member:
lilo
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Posted on Monday, Mar 1, 2010 - 6:32 pm:
Leilani - well you figured out how to upload the photos. I see you did label the views - however the font is so small that some folks might miss it. Maybe you can have the labels larger the next time. I read everything about hooves here as a learning experience.
Lilo
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Member:
ajudson1
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Posted on Tuesday, Mar 2, 2010 - 7:16 am:
I label right on each hoof sole, for example "C" at the toe for Cody..then LF or LH. And sometimes draw a circle or arrow to something I am concerned about. This guarantees I have it right even though I also add text when I put it in Picasa.
I use a big fat permanent marker to mark with.
I of course am keeping track of 4 horses! But even with one horse it's hard to keep track of each hoof. And the more you do to keep things straight, the better your references will be for you and us.
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Member:
stek
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Posted on Tuesday, Mar 2, 2010 - 1:07 pm:
Another question: how is Anuhea going? Any lameness or shortness of stride or trouble taking one lead or the other etc? I personally am more conservative with changes if the horse is going well even if his feet/conformation are imperfect.
Her feet do look nice and dry and callused, bars maybe a bit long but I tend not to trim them unless they start to lay over. Hard to judge much else from the solar view alone. Agree that the heels look a tad contracted but I have seen much worse. I see a big difference between the quality of hoof wall between the RR and LF, though it may be due to the angle of the photo and/or chipping on the LF.
I do see what looks like a 'toe divot' in both fores. If that is the case to manage cracking you may need to take the toe back more.
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Member:
leilani
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Posted on Tuesday, Mar 2, 2010 - 4:16 pm:
Dr. O, her last trim was 2/3/10. I was maintaining the hoofs (or so I thought ) every 2 weeks. Also, I think the heels are growing further apart. I'll take the heels back a tad today.
Shannon she has not been off, etc. We have been in a DrOught since early December, so their feet are very dry and rock hard.
Also, my husband bought me the "Under the Horse" DVDs to help my hoof education go forward.
I will take more pictures today and post. I appreciate all of your comments.
Leilani
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Member:
vickiann
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Posted on Tuesday, Mar 2, 2010 - 8:01 pm:
Leilani,
One of mine had heels looking much more contracted than this and we returned him to soundness after many years of intermittent lameness.
Also increased the size of his foot.
Good for you for studying and working on this.
Good luck.
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Member:
ajudson1
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Posted on Wednesday, Mar 3, 2010 - 7:15 am:
Leilani,
Great that hubby bought you the DVDs! If I were in your spot, I'd watch the maintenance trim DVD a few times, get that in my mind, then go back and study the others in order. There is a lot of info in the course, and I wouldn't make any changes for now with the hoofs if she's going fine.
Just my thoughts on it.
Best of luck.
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Member:
leilani
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Posted on Monday, Mar 8, 2010 - 3:43 pm:
Hi all,
I had Anuhea's hooves trimmed on Saturday. I watched the trimmer very closely and asked lots of questions. I think with HA's help, the trimmer and Pete Ramey I may just get it.
What do you think of her feet? I think the heels look much better.
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Member:
scooter
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Posted on Tuesday, Mar 9, 2010 - 7:15 am:
Leilani, It is hard to tell from your pictures (for me anyway) 
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Member:
ajudson1
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Posted on Tuesday, Mar 9, 2010 - 7:52 am:
Can you please post pictures from the side, showing the horse standing as she normally does?
A lot can be told by the horses body language as they are just standing there. I can't see it, but others can tell if shoulders/back/hips are tight or uncomfortable. And if she's standing under herself.
And pictures of the hoof from the side when it's on the stand, and from the heel to the toe please also.
If the pictures were a bit bigger, and can be closer shots too.
thanks
DrO,
Do you have a section on taking good hoof pictures? If not, it would be helpful as so many are interested in trimming and asking for help.
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Member:
leilani
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Posted on Tuesday, Mar 9, 2010 - 1:49 pm:
Good suggestions Angie. I'll take more pictures today. Thank you. Leilani
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Moderator:
DrO
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Posted on Tuesday, Mar 9, 2010 - 6:00 pm:
Good side views of the raised foot and conformation views with the horse standing square would be of benefit Leilani. I have had how to photograph a horse, including the feet, for evaluation for a long time on my to do list, I will bump it up a notch.
DrO
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