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Discussion on Lil' swimmers hock wrap.
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scooter
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Posted on Sunday, May 30, 2010 - 3:26 pm:
I have come to appreciate these little swimmers, they worked awesome for a hoof wrap for Hank. Now Flash is getting the hock sore from hades from being stalled. Her bedding is VERY deep, the flies and nats stay at it day and night, any kind of goop I put on it melts off in a matter of minutes. I have tried corona, swat, the aluminum spray stuff (which worked longer than any of it), bluekote, ect.
I tried just putting duct tape and gorilla tape over it but it won't stick, probably from all the melted goop
Tried to figure out how I could wrap it yet she could still bend it comfortably, between my wrapping skills and the way the hock is it wouldn't work.
So went in the tack room and studied all my stuff I have (which is quite a bit) and decided on some nice fleece wraps, thought they would have enough give and I could probably get them on right (maybe) as I was rolling the wrap I spotted the lil swimees... HMMMM.
She has had them on all day and they haven't moved, they flex with her hock because of the elastic, these will be great to keep the flies and nats off and irritating it further and keeping meds in place. I don't know if they will stay in place while she lies down, but I am hopeful and think that they will, I am going to add an extra one at night
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mrose
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Posted on Sunday, May 30, 2010 - 3:52 pm:
Diane, let us know how long these last after she's been getting up and down, etc. Getting any wrap to stay on a hock is tough. I use the baby diapers and swimmies for a lot of things, but haven't tried on the hocks.
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mysi
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Posted on Sunday, May 30, 2010 - 4:00 pm:
I bet if you have a problem with them staying on a strip of elastikon on each end will hold it on. When Moose busted his knees open I used an absorbent patch with elastikon and it stayed on 24 hours until I removed it! That stuff sticks to anything! It's pricey ($12 for a 4" roll) but well worth it.
He decided to roll in the sand...and they didn't budge!!!
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mrose
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Posted on Sunday, May 30, 2010 - 5:22 pm:
Nice look Moose is sporting! At least is was sand and not mud! I agree about the elastikon. It would be nice for wraps and bandages to stick without it, though. Like you said, the stuff is pricey.
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ajudson1
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Posted on Sunday, May 30, 2010 - 5:34 pm:
Hubby is going to think I lost it when I come home with lil swimmers, and we don't have any grandkids that young, lol!
Good idea though, think I need a bigger medical supply box in my tack room.
Hope it works.
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rtrotter
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Posted on Sunday, May 30, 2010 - 9:06 pm:
The trick to keeping the hock wraps on is to put bandages on her back legs. This blocks the hock bandage from falling down the leg.
I also agree about the elasticon, but It does stick to the hair and can be difficult to get off if there is nothing underneath it.
Maybe she would be better off with less bedding. Perhaps she can't get her footing and that's why she's scraping up her hocks. Do you have a couple of rubber mats you could use?
Don't know if you've tried this but I use a product called triple antibiotic ointment. I buy it at Agway, not sure who the manufacturer is, but it' similar to swat in that it has a fly repellent in it. I might also recommend bluing.
Rachelle
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scooter
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Posted on Sunday, May 30, 2010 - 9:32 pm:
I just checked her and took off her boots, that swimmee hasn't budged an inch, and I hand walked her in them.
Rachelle the bedding being TOO deep has crossed my mind, I'll let it get a little thinner and see what happens,no mats, think I may try the deep litter, that way it will be firm yet cushy. I did try the triple antibiotic stuff.
If nothing else this did keep the flies and nats away, hope it's still on in the morning.
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scooter
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Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 7:31 am:
It Stayed on!!!! . Last night I added a regular disposable diaper it didn't move either, but I don't think I needed to the swimee was right where I put it. She did lay down she had shavings on her and the diapers. There was a little rub on the diapers, but it didn't come close to going through it.
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mrose
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Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 11:09 am:
Good to know! I'm sure the manufacturers have no idea how handy those things are! They are also useful in the carwash to "grab" the leaks around the windows of the convertable. They are useful anytime you need something absorbant or soft.
Rachelle, you are too smart! A leg wrap below the hock; how simple is that! So how come I never thought of it. Duhhhh. (hitting forhead)
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scooter
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Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 11:39 am:
I just took the swimees off, it is cool here today and the flies aren't bad, I suppose letting air get to it is good??
That hock sore from Hades is already half the size and not raw and sore looking, it is already dryin up.....I LOVE little swimmers. Until I have a deep litter bed I am going to leave one on her, and that will be one less thing to deal with with her. One thing at a time!!
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vickiann
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Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 12:25 pm:
Thanks for posting the photos. Interesting to see how you used those Swimmies.
All of the open sores that I have been dealing with lately have been on Lance's flanks, face and locations impossible to wrap.
At the beginning I have been cleaning the wounds with Betadine solution, applying Triple Antibiotic ointment and then applying a bit of Desitin (generic is fine too) -- the regular rather than creamy kind works best for this.
As healing progresses and the wound needs drying I've been cleaning and then applying Blue Lotion.
In both cases I have applied a strong fly spray (like Dura Guard, in the orange bottle) to a small piece of cotton and then applied the spray around the perimeter of the wound.
When I've used swat around the edges it tends to melt in the heat and make a big mess of things.
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stek
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Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 12:25 pm:
Great idea Diane, will add that to the list of tricks!
Rachelle trying to figure out what bluing would do?
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rtrotter
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Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 3:01 pm:
Shannon,
I had to laugh when I read your last post, but then I thought, she must think I'm nuts trying to put laundry bluing on a horse cut.( Hmmm, perhaps that's where the formulation came from)
Nope, nothing like that. What I call bluing is an equine remedy for wounds that you either spray on or dab on. The stuff I use is Dr. Naylors Blu-cote comes in a spray can. It's good for scrapes and it seems to keep the flies away from the open cut and its good to use in places that are hard to bandage (like Diane's hock).
There is another brand that is called blue lotion( might be Farnam or Absorbine, but I'm not sure) but to me blue lotion is a blue creamy liniment that's rubbed on joint, hips and stifles like Ben-gay is used on humans.
One day I'll post about People remedies used on horses like Preparation-H and Listerine:-)
And no, the Preparation-H is not used for Horse Hemorroids!
Rachelle
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vickiann
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Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 5:50 pm:
Whatever one calls it, the formula contains purple gentian. It works well. Very good on leg wounds and when a drying action is desired.
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scooter
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Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 6:00 pm:
Tried the blu-kote didn't work, the worst thing about hock sores is they rub them raw everytime they lay down, so it really doesn't matter what one puts on it they open it back up, her sore already looks so much better just from protecting it last night, I hope the deep litter bed helps with this I know it does in the winter. OR even better yet she would have a remarkable recovery and get the heck out the stall!! She does look a LITTLE better today, especially with those boots on you'd never know there was a thing wrong with her... maybe the farrier can figure it out (yea right)
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vickiann
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Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 9:49 pm:
I can see where the Blue-Kote wouldn't be right for Flash for a pressure sore except maybe right at the point where it is nearly healed.
Desitin (or the generic) might be rather soothing though as a top layer under the wrap. It really has some terrific healing properties. And it doesn't seem to clog the pores as much as Corona.
With your diligent care this will surely heal in any case before too long.
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sdms
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Posted on Tuesday, Jun 1, 2010 - 12:39 am:
Diane, those Lil Swimmers are pretty impressive. If only the manufacturers knew how we were using them. They'd probably jack up the price!
Just some info for those looking for elastikon at a cheaper price. I used a lot of the stuff last year while splinting our colt and I keep it on hand for bandaging. I found a website called med101store.com where I could get 4" elastic tape for $3.50 per roll. I found it worked just as well as the J&J elastikon. But, if you want the real stuff you can go to qualitymedicalsupplies.com and get it for about $5.50 per roll.
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rtrotter
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Posted on Tuesday, Jun 1, 2010 - 7:13 am:
Sara M,
Thanks for that link, when my mare races I use elasticon on her knees as protection instead of knee boots which I think changes her gait, but it gets expensive at $10+ per roll. So having another source other than the tack shop is a good thing.
Not sure if you have read my posts about what I am using on my horses feet, but I have a medical supply house that sells something very similar that works just as well for my purposes @ $4/per roll rather than $15/roll. Anywhere we can save money works for me.
Rachelle
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scooter
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Posted on Tuesday, Jun 1, 2010 - 7:35 am:
Stayed on for the second night... I am totally impressed. It takes me exactly 1 minute to put the diaper on at night, and it is reusable for the next night, I think one diaper would easily get you a week. Since these lil swimmers don't have plastic over them like the disposable diaper it is breathable too and didn't cause her to sweat under it.
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stek
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Posted on Tuesday, Jun 1, 2010 - 10:58 am:
Rachelle that's exactly what I was thinking, and scratching my head too I have used blu-kote but my favorite is furacin spray which I don't think they make any more. I have a couple cans stashed away that I use as sparingly as possible.
Glad the swimmers are still working for you Diane!
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