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Discussion on Toe Cracks
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quatro
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Posted on Tuesday, Apr 5, 2011 - 6:29 pm:
We have found a new gal farrier who seems to be doing a great job, however, Levi has had a toe crack in both front feet for a while, it was starting before she began trimming. She said it should be gone next trim, which will be thursday.
My biggest concern, is that this toe crack thing is what started my problems with him lonnnnnnggggg ago.
What would cause the toe cracks, so that I need to talk with her about making sure she is on track.
He seems to be a little sole tender after she trims him. I need her to understand that a rasp does not go on this horses sole. I will watch her to be sure, he is thin soled.
I would like to get an x-ray, but will need to wait till next trim to take him to S.D.. I did have him scheduled for the local vet for an x-ray, but my cat has just taken me to the cleaners with a vet bill for F.U.S. so I really need to wait.
The reason I am concerned, is the open crack area should be gone this trim, but it looks like a hairline crack is heading upwards on both feet?
I really like this gal, she is doing a great job, just want to make sure she keeps my boy sound.
thanks to anyone with advice
suz
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vickiann
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Posted on Tuesday, Apr 5, 2011 - 8:35 pm:
suz,
My horse Lance has had such cracks up the center front of both front feet for years.
One appeared after a gravel abscess.
Can't even remember when the other set in.
Point being, the cracks were superficial and I think artifacts related to his way of going.
Recently he has been carrying himself in a more balanced way due to a saddle and CorrecTOR pad that I have been using, and the crack in the right front is finally gone, and getting smaller in the left front.
Also, I had my Vet take his toes back a bit more a couple of times between farrier trims and also kept after his toes between trims when I could.
Mostly I think it relates to their way of going and further encouraged when toes are left a little too long.
But it can take a really long time to conquer these cracks.
Don't put too much pressure on your farrier so that she takes too much off at one time.
A farrier did that on my horse on account of a crack in one front foot and it took months to get the horse back in balance after that.
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ajudson1
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Posted on Wednesday, Apr 6, 2011 - 7:21 am:
Pictures, pictures, pictures PLEASE.
Pressure at the 1 to 2 o'clock areas of the hoof wall could be causing the crack.
What is the depth of the collaterol grooves, near the tip of the frog and at the back? If there is not much depth at the front, he is thin soled and will be tender after trims possibly. If the wall isn't beveled right, and there are flares left, he will be tender. In other works, don't assume he's tender due to a sole issue.
Of course, what do I know? ;-).
And one of my horses has had a superficial crack for years too.
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quatro
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Posted on Wednesday, Apr 6, 2011 - 10:20 pm:
Jeez, I can see lots more when i see the pictures. I usually do Levi every 6 weeks, but we are at 8 weeks right now, I am pretty sure that is why he does have flares, and long at the toe,
Hope we did not cause any damage, and can get him back on track.
She will be here tomorrow morning, I hope we can get him back. He is sound as can be right now, we worked in the round pen and he is trotting around just fine, will see what happens tomorrow.
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quatro
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Posted on Wednesday, Apr 6, 2011 - 10:30 pm:
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quatro
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Posted on Wednesday, Apr 6, 2011 - 10:38 pm:
tried to upload the solar views, but the file is too big i guess
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Member:
leec
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Posted on Thursday, Apr 7, 2011 - 12:04 pm:
Could his heel be too high and with weight-bearing too much on his toe, it's causing them to flare and crack?
Lee C
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ajudson1
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Posted on Thursday, Apr 7, 2011 - 12:16 pm:
I hope you can get some sole views. He looks like he needs a bit of work and then maintenance more often than every 8 weeks to maintain. Both fronts need balancing, too high on outside. I am betting his heels need lowering.
Refresh our memory please: What did Levi suffer from? Are you bringing him back from founder?
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vickiann
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Posted on Thursday, Apr 7, 2011 - 9:10 pm:
WOW.
Inclined to agree with Angie.
Don't like the look of the way the coronet band rises and falls.
Feet look unbalanced to me and way too upright?
Soft tissue looks as though it is distorting.
Wish I could send my farrier to you to clean this up.
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quatro
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Posted on Thursday, Apr 7, 2011 - 10:14 pm:
We have been posting on this sight about poor levi's feet since i think 2003 or 4 or something. He has had rotation, according to the final vet we visited, from having a short ddt, and a poor trim, that caused the rotation. He could also be an insulin resistant horse, but that is yet to be determined, he eats constantly.
I normally trim every 5 to 6 weeks, but we went way too long. this time.
I am going to try to post new pics, they are on grass however, so don't know if you will be able to see much.
He has to be upright due to his still existing rotation. If he gets a long toe, and short heal, he is lame.
I will try to post pics, they look way better and he so far is sound. We will have to see what tomorrow brings, that is usually when we have trouble.
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Member:
quatro
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Posted on Thursday, Apr 7, 2011 - 10:20 pm:
This was from last June
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Member:
quatro
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Posted on Thursday, Apr 7, 2011 - 10:26 pm:
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Member:
quatro
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Posted on Thursday, Apr 7, 2011 - 10:29 pm:
That was the glued on shoes he had to wear after his resection from white line disease. This horse has been a case study on every kind of hoof problem.
When the other guy kept his heel lower, he kept having the white line stuff, Who knows. I am just hoping to work with this gal, so I don't have to drive 2 hours. The next trim, I am hauling him up and having x-rays done, have her meet the vet and old farrier, and go from there.
I have other pictures but they keep saying they are too big.
suz
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Member:
quatro
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Posted on Thursday, Apr 7, 2011 - 10:38 pm:
right foot
looking down the bottom of his foot
left foot, his problem foot. She dug out the crack, looking for any diseased area, did not find any
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Member:
quatro
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Posted on Thursday, Apr 7, 2011 - 10:39 pm:
The last pictures are from today. Any thoughts?
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DrO
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Posted on Friday, Apr 8, 2011 - 8:04 am:
Hello Susan,
I agree with the assessments above that the foot looks overly long and out of medio-lateral balance in the images above.
DrO
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