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| Member: Tpmiller |
Posted on Monday, Jun 5, 2006 - 11:02 am: Past Wednesday lost a beautiful colt to lightening and severely injured mare.Large ulcerated right eye, flaccid right side mouth, ataxia (wobbly legs), and huge puncture wound of right foreleg above elbow extending upwards at least 6 inches. Vets do not believe the latter was directly caused by the lightening, believe she did it to herself. Mare presented as having a stroke at first glance. Colt died instantly, unmarked. Absolutely no evidence of lightening strike on or around tree they were under, presumed struck from ground up. To keep mare hydrated, (she was tubed 1st two days), gave her water run off that had been soaked in beet pulp. Over 48 hours we advanced to offering more beet pulp with the water. When I saw her take loose salt from stall container, proceeded to add electrolytes to her very wet mash. Used a wide tub elevated to feed, seemed to make swallowing easier. Given fresh cut grass and moistened separated hay to avoid choke. Monitored heart rate and gut sounds, as well as water and feed intake and evidence of peeing and pooping. She received steroids and antibiotics via IM. Right eye treated frequently to maintain moisture. Cefa Lak inserted into puncture daily, obviously keeping wound clean, free of insects. Yesterday, 1st time out of stall in small grassy enclosed paddock. Wobbly at first. Alone, could see other horses. She actually did a slow 10 yard trot. She later fell on her right once, got back up. Rolled and scratched back, able to get up. She continues to DrOol out of right side mouth, but had adapted well to eating on one side, now DrOps almost no feed. Our first foal. A top Arabian mare who has won on the flat track and endurance by age 8. Her prognosis is good, although the nerve damage will take a long time to regenerate. She had been re-bred, we will ascertain status at a later date. One tends to blame oneself after such a tragedy, I was not home at the time. Grief for that wonderful colt was overwhelming, but needed to concentrate on saving the mare. Certainly hope no one ever experiences this, could not find any pertinent topic, thought it would help to discuss survivors of lightening. |
| Member: Sjeys |
Posted on Monday, Jun 5, 2006 - 11:39 am: I'm so sorry to hear about your colt. What a terrible tragedy. I noticed you are in Pennsylvania and was surprised at the lightning issue, though of course it could happen anywhere. I expected this in Florida and New Mexico, where those states get the most lightning strikes. Hopefully someone will have some experience here to share. I hope your mare does well; what a sad time for her to recover from something so devastating. It sounds like you are taking great care of her.I always used to wonder (when I lived in NM) if I should put them in the barn during the lightning storms...I never did and guess I was very lucky. |
| Member: Mrose |
Posted on Monday, Jun 5, 2006 - 11:40 am: I am so sorry!! What a dreadful thing. I wonder how common an occurance this is? I have friends outside of Atlanta that years ago lost four horses due to lightening. It hit a big tree in their pasture, and ran down the roots through the ground to the horses.I don't know where you live, but where we are fierce summer storms blow up out of no where very quickly. If you aren't at home to hurridly get horses in, there's nothing you can do. I hope your mare recovers fully. I know it will take a long time. We had a mare with severe nerve damage from a kick, and it took almost a year for her to recover, and she ever after had a lip that DrOoped on one side. However, she went on to produce some beautiful foals for us. Lightening is probably my biggest fear -although I do enjoy sitting safely on the deck watching the storms in the distance. I've been out riding a couple of times and had storms blow up. Very scary to have strikes hitting the peaks around you while you are huddling in a low spot or running for the trailer. With the mountains and trees, you just don't see them coming at times. What is your mare's breeding out of curiosity? |
| Member: Hwood |
Posted on Monday, Jun 5, 2006 - 11:58 am: Hey, Tim. A sad thing for you. We can't keep our horses in padded cells, though, and I doubt you could have forseen the lightning storm. It was always a worry for a friend of mine who didn't have a run-in barn. If she put the horses out in the morning, they'd have to stay out while she was at work. Even if they had HAD shelter, most of the time, I bet the horses would have chosen to stand out in the storm.In Vermont, there is lots of ledge under the soil, and lightning will often hit ledge and travel. Many times one hears of a few cows that did while standing in a puddle at the gate, or of horses that get struck and killed. Last July, right after we bought the farm in Kansas, we visited there and were "wowed" by a terrific thunder/lightning/wind/rain/hail storm. ("Gee," we were assured, "we haven't had a storm like this in over three years!!!") The next morning, we were told that 2 of the 3 horses owned by a friend's nephew had been struck and killed. I don't know of many animals that have survived a lightning strike. You sound as if you are right "on top of things" with your mare. I hope she makes a full recovery and that she is able to carry a healthy foal to term. (Maybe it will be a very special foal with super powers  and will amaze everyone at the track.)
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| Member: Tpmiller |
Posted on Monday, Jun 5, 2006 - 12:16 pm: They had access to a large stall in barn. According to a resident on the property, the storm came up quickly, mom, son and half-sister apparently chose to wait it out under a tree.When I came home, about 8 hours afterward, the mare and her half sister were in the barn, I knew the colt was gone immediately. Patriot Games (Patriot Missle x Wikings Dream) her sole grandfather was Wiking. Been overwhelmed by folks with sympathy from NE endurance region. It is a tough discipline, lots of good folk who put horse welfare first. Very knowledgeable group, always learning. Anyone interested in learning more about endurance www.aerc.org Most folks started in other disciplines, found endurance and stayed. |
| Member: Jojo15 |
Posted on Monday, Jun 5, 2006 - 12:26 pm: Yes, Florida i have seen a few horses DrOp and not get up from lightening in pastures and even in the barn. And its so sad, very sudden, and nothing you can do about it. if it hit the ground you would have seen a strike scald somewhere.I, too have been a little close for comfort to a lightening strike out on the water. boat stopped working, we passed out. had a tingling sensation for weeks. and never felt right for awhile after that. The boat finally did start up again, and we had a heck of time trying to find our way back to the island (we were in marsh harbor/abacos) if the BF i was with wasn't an expert yachtsman, we would've been screwed. Because neither of us knew how long we'd been out. or drifted where? We gathered that the lightening struck close in the water and the boat took the brunt of it. We had on rubber soled shoes and BF said if we had been barefoot we'd probably not been as lucky. I always wonder about that.... Another time i was on trail in dupois park, we were in a group of 15. Lightening struck a tree close by, felled it. The horses spooked and all went nuts running back to the campground. It was wet raining, no visibility. i swear the lightening was chasing us. many horses came back without people. Many people had to go searching for their horse hours later. Not all came back to the site. Not sure what would have been best in that situation either. Its easier to stay on an unruly horse than jump off and DrOp to the ground. Plus in florida most land is swampy bog. With lightening traveling thru water as a conduit, who knows if the horses felt that instead of spooking from the tree falling. Even to this day iam totally fascinated with lightening and when i see it in the distance i DrOp what i am doing and run to the house. I live in lightening alley, i swear. Its always hitting somewhere close by. ALways. But totally stand and watch it. Mesmerized. And feel helpless. I'm not sure whats better. leaving the horse loose to run (because i'm sure it emits an inaudible sound when its coming) or put the horse up in the barn. When it happened to a friend her stall was right under a tree that got hit, she was convinced it was because of the metal shoes on the horse. The horse to the other side was not shod and not killed. Don't know the reality of this. I have two trees struck by lightening in my yard. Horse was, i guess, far enough away not to be affected. One tree is right in her paddock. the other was in the front yard. both trees weren't the highest tree, but within a cluster of them. YOU cant miss a tree struck by lightening. There is the oddest line formation that starts a few days after the strike. So go back out and check that tree again. Sometimes its not readily apparent. Well not in my case. It looks like a snake that slithers up around and around the tree, so upon first glance standing in one spot you might not see it. But as you walk around the tree will see the markings. I didn't notice it for awhile. and then one day saw it. From then on it was unmistakeable. But on first glance the tree looked fine. One tree died, one did not. And i have seen it jump from tree to tree. but normally it hits the highest spot but can also hit the ground as a split off. or even go sideways close to the ground. They say some people are more electrically charged than others and the lightening can seek that out, if you are close enough to a strike. I bet that same theory could hold true to a horse. Poor foal, he took the brunt of it, and it probably saved the life of the mare. I wonder if she had a stroke, can you test for that? or she might have some serious nerve damage, but in time will recover. i hope she does well. |
| Member: Christos |
Posted on Monday, Jun 5, 2006 - 12:57 pm: I'm very sorry for your loss, Timothy.General ataxia and falling down suggest the mare has suffered some brain damage from the strike. I am sure DrO can tell you what the best approach is for a better recovery. |
| Member: Tpmiller |
Posted on Monday, Jun 5, 2006 - 2:44 pm: Christos- Thank you. She responds to her name. This A.M. I again walked her a short ways from stall to paddock, using a loose lead rope around her neck.An RN and horse person worked on her until the vets arrived, I was despondent and frankly crying. The top dutch door to stall was open, the mare came to me and nuzzled my arm and hair. After the vets arrived, there was one episode where the mare had an attack, people scattered. None since. Today she is steadier on her feet. She continues the habit of rubbing teeth along the top of a door or gate when she wants out. She is able to step up and down 8" or so entering/exiting stall. Mentally, she gives the appearance of being intact. My major concern at this point is the extent to which damaged nerves will regenerate. While the eye sustained a large ulcer, am advised it is not deep. For the record, the mare turned 9 this spring. This was her first pregnancy. |
| Member: Quatro |
Posted on Monday, Jun 5, 2006 - 3:07 pm: So sorry for your loss. Nature can be so beautiful, and so unkind at times. We have tornadoes here in Iowa, and I always worry about the animals. Many choose to leave their horses out in storms, I put mine away in the barn. The flying debris is more dangerous. You only hope the barn holds up. A neighbors' 2 horses were lifted into the tornado. One came down with a broken leg, the other had a piece of wood sticking out of its shoulder. Both survived but a long road to recovery.Best wishes to you and your mare for a speedy recovery. suz |
| Member: Christos |
Posted on Monday, Jun 5, 2006 - 5:33 pm: That sounds very good, Timothy. I think she was very lucky. Do take care to have the stall deeply bedded for a few days, she may still have an attack or two.Such a strong and courageous girl she is, I wish her a speedy and complete recovery. |
| New Member: Image |
Posted on Monday, Jun 5, 2006 - 5:34 pm: Timothy, my condolences on your loss. We live just outside of Tampa, Florida and what you are experiencing now is our worst fear. I have seen the strangest things with lightning. I have seen it DrOp one cow in the middle of a herd and I have seen it follow wire fencing for wires and kill many along the way. The closest I have come (or want to) was when Legacy was a long yearling. I always try to have everyone in the barn before the storms but sometimes it can't be helped. I was late and the storm was just getting here. I ran to the barn to open the doors for the Ladies (my mares) to come in. Leggins was excited and was the last to come in as I swung open an outside door. Just as she was about 10 yards from me and the door, lightning struck the pipe gate 30 yards away. The whole world turned purple in that flash. Scared me so bad I don't know if I went over the dutch door or around it. I just know, I got in the stall just ahead of Legacy. And instinctively ran around the perimeter of the stall to keep from being run over. (she was as scared as I was.) As I came around to the door I ducked back out but she apparently felt she was safer with me and tried to come too. She bumped me hard from behind and I literally flew through the door and landed flat in the mud. I leaped up, slammed the door shut before she could come any further and ran for the house. (Yes, the last part was kinda funny as I look back on it but at the time...wow.) I guess it would have made a great video! I met my husband running towards me, he couldn't believe we were ok as close as the strike was and all the water standing around. Our neighbor who has lived here all his life and saw most of it said we were "2 of the luckiest critters he had ever seen." Although I know it's false security to have them in the barn, I just feel better with them in there than under the big oak they usually stand under. Do not blame yourself, it could have happened no matter what you did or where they were. It's luck of the draw. You are doing a great job with that mare. Nerve damage does take a while to heal just be patient and keep your chin up.Our best to you and yours Charlayne |
| Member: Tpmiller |
Posted on Monday, Jun 5, 2006 - 6:21 pm: Vet examined her again today. Very pleased with her progress. She is not concerned about flaccidity of rt. side mouth and ear, confident will come back in time.Washed and examined the eye, her major concern. There is sight. Size of ulcer has reduced. Need to keep moist, covered with full bonnet flymask, and keeping her from scratching when solution is applied. She cautioned that two months out, she has seen several who go through an almost post-traumatic synDrOme, lose weight, dull coat or lose hair, then recover. They do not know why, but seems consistent with most lightening hit survivors. Vet proposes ultrasound Monday to check status of early May re-breeding. I have received lot's of correspondence from people who have lost horses to lightening, had some recover, or both. Including some hit standing in a stall in a barn, through the window. Seems indiscriminate. Shelter with lightening rods seems to be safest. We can''t bubble wrap these animals, and I want these horses on my hilly pastures as much as possible, but I will pay more attention to the daily weather and have mine in the barn at the slightest hint of thunderstorms. In the alternative, I wonder how effective rubber overshoes, like tires on a car would be? Some have pointed out the ground here has been very dry for some time, suggesting an increase in conductivity. |
| Member: Christos |
Posted on Monday, Jun 5, 2006 - 6:41 pm: No, no! There's nothing you can do except lightning rods and even those are a questionable solution for a barn.I promise to explain this in detail tomorrow, it's really late here. Nice to hear that her eye is functional and she's doing better. |
| Member: Mrose |
Posted on Monday, Jun 5, 2006 - 8:59 pm: We had lightening rods on our last barn, and it seemed to me they acted as an attractant to the lightening. We had several strikes too close for comfort. One hit a tree that touched the barn, and two others hit the pipe arena in the middle of the barn (it was a "u" shape.) I was in my office when we had one strike, and the entire arena lit up like neon lights for an instant before the "whole world" just lit up. It was terrifing!Sounds like your mare is doing good with steady improvement. I hope her ultrasound proves o.k. Terrific blood lines!!!! Wow! I have a great friend whose a "mad endurance" person. Her stallion was one of top 5 in the nation at one time. I used to go on training rides with her, and did a lot of trail marking. She talked me into one 25 mi. ride. It was a lot of fun, but, man, was I hungry and tired afterward; unlike my horse, who was in great shape. You guys are a "special breed" of people! |
| Member: Paul303 |
Posted on Monday, Jun 5, 2006 - 11:01 pm: I'm one who has lost one to lightning. Many years ago, in 1980, my 14 yr old gelding was on turnout with access to a large pole barn - wooden. He always stayed out in storms, unlike the other 6 he was out with. He was found after the violent thunder storms, lying in the open - with a mouth full of grass. The area was known for the minerals that had been mined long ago and he was shod all around. It appeared that lightning struck nearby and traveled to his feet. He apparently never knew what hit him.I almost got out of horses because of that...it's been a long time since I thought of that. I'm so very sorry for your loss and I'm ecstatic to hear of your mare's progress - the very best of luck |
| Member: Djws |
Posted on Tuesday, Jun 6, 2006 - 1:54 am: Tim,My condolences on the loss of your colt. I can only imagine your grief. I wish you the best with your mare and will keep you both in my prayers! I am reluctant to say the I have learned something from your tragic experience (while you are most assuredly hurting), but I have. I am a first time horse owner and I never thought about bringing my horse to the barn in a storm (for selfish reasons). I am petrified of wind and lightning. In 1974, I resided in a town (15 miles from my current home) that lost 36 people to a F-5 tornado. I was 21 years old and I remember it as if were yesterday. I was seriously injured, but I survived. The lightning was more horrendous to me than the roar of the tornado. It was paralyzing. I always feel guilty when it storms because I can't bring myself to cross the large open pasture to get to the barn or to my horse. I shake at the thought of being outside if I hear the rumble of thunder! Our local horse people support me on this issue (knowing my history) and tell me that wild horses are in storms and survive, and that my horse will be fine. They have told me that lightning striking an equine is quite rare. I know they tell me this to comfort me. Now, I know it happens more often than most of us are aware. My horse can always get to his stall (24' X 12'-he has room to move if HE is afraid) in the barn, or to his run-in (on his own). Instead, he chooses to stand under his favorite huge oak tree (also the greatest distance from the house) when it storms. I have remained too "chicken" to coerce him into the barn when a storm is approaching. This horse has turned my world around. I love him very much. I would do anything for him. Tim, your heart breaking loss has helped someone. Me. After reading your narrative, I realize I MUST overcome a fear that I have lived with for 32 years. In the future, I will make certain that my horse is sheltered from the storms. I won't put either of us in jeopardy but, I will get him to the barn. I realize that lightning can strike the barn, but I feel more harm can come to him in the open. Some believe that good always springs forth from a sorrowful event. I realize my conquering a fear is not much solace for you but, perhaps, you will find some respite in knowing what I have shared with you. I know that my family will be grateful that something has finally helped me move forward. Fear is a powerful issue and I have sought professional help through the years for my "storm fears" to no avail. Because you shared this experience, I believe I will be able to overcome my fear. I feel the love you have for your horses. Your mare is lucky to have your vigilance. Having a horse to love and care for is a privilege. My horse, and the horse people I have met (in person and otherwise, i.e., this web site) the past 10 months have truly been a blessing. This only substantiates the sincere feelings I have that my equine friend was heaven sent. I know that your colt is at Rainbow Bridge. My sincere wishes for a speedy recovery for your mare and your shattered heart. DJ |
| Moderator: DrO |
Posted on Tuesday, Jun 6, 2006 - 7:28 am: My condolences Tim and it sounds like you have a good handle on care of the mare.DJ, I do not nor do I let my family go out and bring in the horses with lightening occurring as this is a good way for them to get hurt...or worse. Bring them in before the storm but once it has started best for you and them to seek shelter. DrO |
| Member: Christos |
Posted on Tuesday, Jun 6, 2006 - 9:46 am: So, let's see...First of all, rubber shoes do not protect you from direct strike. Lightning is simply too powerful. I have seen one lightning perforate 20 teflon disks 1" thick, 1m apart from each other. Rubber soles may protect you from the voltage developing on the ground when a lightning strikes very close, but they also insulate you from the ground and any static charge you already carry will not dissipate to the ground. That means that you may be charged better than the tree next to you and you get the treat instead. The only "electrical" difference between people is skin dryness. Theoretically, dry skin is an advantage as it is a worse conductor and the lightning may actually travel over your skin. But again, dry skin does not conduct well with your clothes to dissipate static electricity, so static buildup may actually attract the lightning to you. Horses, especially next to the tree that gets hit are in greater danger than humans. Distance between feet is the reason. A horse will get some 5000 volts between its legs, whilst a standing human only some 500. So a horse under a tree is not at all safe. Bring them in, as DrO says, before the storm. Lightning rods are devices to attract and direct the lightning. They must be positioned a few hundred feet from the barn. Otherwise a branch from the attracted lightning can hit anywhere on or in the barn causing a fire. The current of the lightning must not dissipate through the barn floor. If the rod is on the barn itself or very close by, its grounding grid must be driven at least 3 meters deep and watered regularly. Dry, hot, windy days build static charges everywhere and make lightning very unpredictable. In wet, cold days it will almost certainly hit the highest pointy spot. |
| Member: Ilona |
Posted on Tuesday, Jun 6, 2006 - 8:42 pm: Christos is completely correct. In South Africa we had vicious lightning storms. Lightening rods were invariably placed a good distance from any building, or very very well grounded. They are attractants. It is mans attempt to harness and control danger. They worked well out on the farms where I spent a lot of time, and too were effective in cities. They are NOT a guarantee of safety, simply offer some percentage of safety. If you have ever watched weather professionals/researchers on TV monitor/measure the charge of lightening you will see the engineering of lightening towers. It is impressive, mesmerizing, and, the force of nature quite humbling. |
| Member: Sswiley |
Posted on Tuesday, Jun 6, 2006 - 11:15 pm: Since there seem to be so many lighting experts here I thought I would relay an experience I had. We are lightening rookies in California. It is not common at all compared to other locals.I saw a strike last winter about 1/8 mile tops from my house, where it hit the ground there was a giant red ball that glowed. Is this the way they all look? I know I have seen strikes from further away and I have never seen this before. The only explanation I had at the time was that it might have hit their tractor. |
| Member: Christos |
Posted on Tuesday, Jun 6, 2006 - 11:35 pm: They don't all look the same, Shelley. There are several different kinds of lightning and their appearance and effects vary according to the conditions of the very moment they strike. A spherical lightning is a relatively rare occurrence.Several theories exist for the functions and mechanics of lightning. Its power being so great, it is extremely difficult to measure and analyse it so to verify these theories. Most we know is based on laboratory models and the study of the results of natural lightning, not measurements of natural lightning itself. |
| Member: Sswiley |
Posted on Wednesday, Jun 7, 2006 - 10:45 am: Christos, thanks for the insight on lighting. How do you know so much . . . ?I always wondered how much my horses were at risk and if the barefoot ones were better off than the shod. They always choose to stand in the middle of my arena which bothered me, but after reading this post I dont think the stalls are any more safe. They are open sided and surrounded by trees. |
| Member: Oscarvv |
Posted on Wednesday, Jun 7, 2006 - 11:17 am: Tim - I am so sorry for the loss of your colt. I hope that your mare continues to improve.I live in 'lightening alley' - FL too. After every storm I seem to run into someone who knows of a horse hit by lightening. You can get lightening insurance on your horses here, I am not sure if that is done in other parts of the country. One night watching the news during a storm, they said there had already been over 5,000 lightening strikes in the viewing area. I either get them in before the storm or hold my breath until it passes. I keep an eye on the radar at https://www.weather.com I was foolish once to go out to get horses in a bad storm but will not again. We have one tree on the property killed by lightening and our barn had a direct hit last year. We do have lightening rods on the barn and our attached residence. The horses in the barn were fine, but obviously scared. -B |
| Member: Warwick |
Posted on Wednesday, Jun 7, 2006 - 11:50 am: I am so sorry to hear about your tragedy, Tim. You have my deepest sympathy on the loss of your colt. It is heartening to hear that your mare is steadily improving. I wish you all the best for her.I have absolutely no experience with lightening strikes as where I live, electrical storms are extremely rare and after reading your story, I am very grateful for that. Best wishes Sue |
| Member: Banthony |
Posted on Wednesday, Jun 7, 2006 - 12:15 pm: Tim - How very terrible you lost your colt. Hopefully with time your mare will make a good recovery. I think lightning short circuits the electrical system of the body. And so the long recovery.I live in Florida where lightning storms are almost a daily occurrence in the summer. With 14 horses it is impossible to get them all into the barn every afternoon. If it looks unusually bad we try to get a few in. Otherwise we hold our breath. Of course all the pastures have big oak trees in them for shade. One of the pin hookers here lost almost an entire crop of yearling fillies a few years ago. One survived. Four were found dead under a tree. One was in a sitting position stone cold dead. The one that survived was never quite the same and couldn't run - but was OK for a broodmare. We also had a sales prep colt that had been struck by lightning and kept his head cocked. A holistic vet worked on him and he got a lot better. Unfortunately he was turned back at the sale because x-rays showed one ankle severely demineralized even though he was sound. The vets said they had never seen anything like it. They thought that ankle might have been the exit point. We take all halters off and nothing is shod - if that even helps. Last year lightning struck the corner of the barn and we had a horse in the isle. The air actually sizzled. It scared us silly. DJ - wild horses are killed by lightning. It was chronicled in a documentary about wild horses called "Cloud." Your story is our nightmare during the summer. So sorry you had to experience this. I guess it is a lesson that it can happen anywhere. |
| Member: Jojo15 |
Posted on Wednesday, Jun 7, 2006 - 12:29 pm: barbaras post made me want to go look up the numbers on stastics. its very interesting. 1 in 5000 chance you will get hit/orindirect hit by lightening. and 1in 500 chance you will indirectly affected. ie. know a person who would get struck directly or indirectly. I bet these numbers go down when you add the horses we know about that have been struck... I have to say though i have never met a person that had a lightening experience striking the house, losing all appliances, etc.here's a link to NOAA.. https://www.lightningsafety.noaa.gov/medical.htm and what i keep reading is that my little barn shelter would be useless, UNLESS their was some kind of plumbing or wiring in it to assuage the lightening hitting the barn and having the metal plumbing be the conduit... good enough reason for me to get lights. grin. |
| Moderator: DrO |
Posted on Wednesday, Jun 7, 2006 - 12:31 pm: Christos comments reveal something that is important to realize if you are caught out in a thunderstorm on a ride. It is the current that passes through you that kills you and often it enters one side through the foot then exists the other. The potential is increased when your feet are farther apart. You also see folks who huddle under a large tree. If on a hill top get off of it. Best is to tie your horse to the lowest tree you can find. Then get away a bit finding a low area and squat with your legs together until it goes over. If you have something insulating that you can squat on even better.DrO |
| Member: Kthorse |
Posted on Wednesday, Jun 7, 2006 - 1:14 pm: wow, its funny (not really)I never knew how much danger I was in. Growing up in australia we hardly ever had rain. We would get so excited when it did. especially, when it was hot we would go out and play in it, lightning and all, In fact most of the kids did. We would walk home from school in thunder and lightning. Reading this post makes me think I am very lucky. |
| Member: Bucky |
Posted on Wednesday, Jun 7, 2006 - 1:24 pm: Dr. O your post reminded me that I know a man who was struck by lightning while on his horse. It killed the horse and melted his cowboy boots into his stirrups. I don't know how the man survived but he did. He does have heart problems. It also struck a bunch of my grandparents steers huddled together during a storm. It killed 20 of them, they figured it hit one and traveled through all because they were all bunched up. It has also started many of their haystacks on fire during the dry days of August and September.Lightning is a scary thing - mother nature does what she wants! Found another interesting article here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning Very, very sorry about your colt Tim. Don't blame yourself and I hope your mare will come through fine. Keep us posted. |
| Member: Tpmiller |
Posted on Wednesday, Jun 7, 2006 - 5:21 pm: Thank You to all.Trying to remain clinical, in the hope that the information in this thread may be useful to someone in the future. The loss of our first born, who exceeded our highest hopes in six weeks, has been difficult. A picture of the mare's flaccid mouth as of yesterday, she can eat, graze, increasingly steadier, and the ulcerated eye is resolving slowly. The leg wound is healing, I wonder if that was not the exit point of the charge. She was to the left of the colt, who was between her and large tree. There is evidence that she fell off to the left, colt DrOpped aside the tree, to his right. There was a half-sister to the mare there, in shoes, no evidence that she was wounded or fell. She would not have been far away. At some point, both mares travelled several hundred yards downhill and were standing in an open barn stall when I arrived. It is hard to believe the wounded mare was able to do that. Very unsteady through Friday, put outside for the first time Sunday. Her recovery to date is amazing. 
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| Member: Corinne |
Posted on Wednesday, Jun 7, 2006 - 8:01 pm: Timothy,My deepest sympathies for the baby. And may your girl have a speedy recovery. Thank you for sharing this information, however hard, so that we may as you say learn and may it help someone in the future. God Bless, Corinne |
| Member: Mrose |
Posted on Wednesday, Jun 7, 2006 - 8:59 pm: Poor thing! It is amazing she was able to make it to the shelter. She must be a tough "girl" with a lot of heart! (imo most Arabians are...especially mares.) It sounds like she is recovering, though. I can only imagine how tough this has been for you. It has brought up a good discussion; perhaps other lives (human and horse) will be saved because of this discussion. |
| Member: Christos |
Posted on Thursday, Jun 8, 2006 - 2:47 am: Shelley, I was working for 7 years right on a mountain peak, maintaining a communications link. Lightning was everyday business, we got 3-4 strikes a day during winter. |
| Member: Qh4me |
Posted on Thursday, Jun 8, 2006 - 11:38 am: Tim,My deepest sympathies for your baby, and wishing a speedy recovery for your mare. She is a very lucky one, and with your dedication, I am praying for her to make a full recovery and to deliver you a beautiful foal in the future. Thank you for taking the time to post your experience as it has given me and other HA members a wake up of how dangerous Mother Nature can be. Lightning has always been a fear of mine. I hate storms, so when it looks like one is coming, I am heading out to get all the horses in. Our pastures have huge maple trees in it, which have been struck many times. Just last week, I was sitting at work, when I checked the weather forcast, and it was calling for storm warnings. Out I headed from work, (with all my coworkers wondering why horses can't stay out in a storm) and made it home to put them in. That evening when I got home from work, there was half of a tree lying in the pasture. I don't know if it was struck by lightning, or possibly the wind, but never the less, I was thankfull I had put them in earlier. As posted, the barn may not be much safer, but it gives me peace of mind to know they are in. Unfortunately, as you found out, it is not always feasible to get them in on time. Thank you to all for your experiences and knowledge. I have learned so much from this post. |
| Member: Twhgait |
Posted on Thursday, Jun 8, 2006 - 4:57 pm: Tim, my condolences on your loss. Your mare sounds like one tough girl and she's lucky to have you. |
| Member: Frances |
Posted on Friday, Jun 9, 2006 - 6:50 am: Tim, I can't tell you how saddened I am to hear of the loss of your wonderful colt and the heartbreaking injury to his mother.It does sound as if the mare, thanks to all your care, is making progress, and this at least is very good news. |
| Member: 9193 |
Posted on Friday, Jun 9, 2006 - 7:43 pm: Tim, I am truly saddened that your great joy in your colt's potential was cut so tragically short. My heart goes out to you and your mare as you both help her struggle to heal. Please keep us posted as to her progress.We don't get too many lightening storms here in the SF Bay area, but when we do it makes me nervous. All three of the big barns are constructed completely out of metal with the horses divided by metal pole paddocks. And most of the horses are shod.. I have no idea if or how grounded our metal barns are. How would lightning striking a metal barn disperse its energy? All the stalls have rubber mats, but I don't know if that would help a horse if the barn got hit by lightning or not. Even the feed troughs are metal... |
| Member: Vickiann |
Posted on Friday, Jun 9, 2006 - 9:00 pm: Timothy -- do hope you will have a good outcome. I've tried to gather my horses up quickly with the approach of a lightning storm but if it is a really bad one they know that being in my barn on top of the hill is dangerous place and they resist strenuously. I've been trapped there with my dog while ceiling fans smoked after a strike, and voltage shot out of the electric fence chargers. Bolts struck the barn taking the trim off (the nails disappeared) disintegrating my hot wire into small pieces everywhere. The horses wisely stationed themselves part way down the hill, well away from trees and fence lines. Only after the insanely constant lightning strikes passed did they get under the trees and out of the rain. I believe in letting the horses decide where they wish to station themselves in either a lightning storm or hurricane. Sometimes there is no safe answer. Here in central Florida, which is the lightning capital, horses are struck in the barn frequently, as well as outdoors. My Dad and Grandfather once had 35 horses all struck because they were standing along a fence line and touching one another or the metal fence (and that was in Minnesota). This is one of those things that is beyond our control. We do all we can to control the things we can, but some things are beyond our grasp. Best wishes and prayers for you. |
| Member: Christos |
Posted on Saturday, Jun 10, 2006 - 3:25 am: Debra, lightning generally follows the least resistance to the ground, the most conductive path.It is very difficult to calculate this path on a building. Even with specialised equipment the results will reflect current conditions of humidity and conductivity which are not likely to be the same when the lightning actually strikes. This is why we prefer to install a path for the lightning to follow, one that offers the lowest possible resistance. The general idea of doing this is nothing more than a 3/8" solid copper wire running right on the top and all around the roof, connected in one corner to a copper blade 1" wide (or a 1/2" round wire), the other end of which is connected to three long metal spikes driven as deep as possible into the ground. For extra protection you can install two copper blades down from the roof on separate ground connections, connect all metal doors, windows, walls, watertanks etc to these blades and install a lightning rod far from the barn. Do consult an electrician and your local building authorities before installing something like this, different laws and regulations may apply. And by the way, do not believe in devices and arrangements that prevent lightning from hitting your building, they simply don't work. Rubber mats in a metal barn are a very good idea. |
| Member: Christos |
Posted on Saturday, Jun 10, 2006 - 5:01 am: Now if the barn is all metal (frame and walls) and the connections between parts solid and corrosion free, just grounding one or two corners of the frame to deep metal spikes should suffice. If the verticals of the metal frame have good contact with conductive ground, this may be enough by itself, but measurements need to be taken to make sure. These measurements require special equipment, a common multimeter is not suitable, and employing such instruments may be more expensive than installing proper grounds and be done with it. |
| Member: Ilona |
Posted on Sunday, Jun 11, 2006 - 7:52 pm: Thanx Christos,I now have a new project. I always try to do prevention the best I can. I helps assuage some of my inevitable guilt when things go wrong, despite the best made efforts. Life has a way of throwing curve balls, and it seems I am frequently in the way  Ilona |
| Member: Tpmiller |
Posted on Tuesday, Jun 13, 2006 - 11:34 am: Two week update.Mare continues to improve in steadiness and ability to turn w/o loss of balance. Flaccidity still apparent rt. ear and rt. side of mouth, improving slowly. The rt. eye is worsening, either damage to tear ducts, too much rubbing, or combination. Vet suggested fitting with half-blinders to prevent rubbing, (wish we had thought of that before), which we obtained immediately. Blood was drawn, refrigerated, we are applying the liquid at top of tube via eyeDrOpper, two DrOps on cornea every 2 hours. In addition continue with two types of gel in eye, one prescription, one over the counter. The exact center of the cornea has a dish in it, we are to contact vets immediately f this turns into a tear-DrOp shape or, put another way, appears to be "melting". The problem in short is keeping the eye moist. Underwent ultrasound and has a 35 day old baby moving, with heartbeat. Was told by a breeder that a "window", at the time of the strike, wherein the attachment to folicle yet to be made, may be a savior. She was bred May 7-8-9, struck midnight May 30. |
| Member: Jojo15 |
Posted on Tuesday, Jun 13, 2006 - 12:30 pm: my mare has some eye problems flushing it helps a lot. small tube inserted into nasal passage up to eye duct. and this really gooey liquid, gelatinous comes out. not sure if your vet tried this to open those passages..very interesting, and bittersweet about the mare being in foal. I hope she goes to term and you get a beautiful little colt. what did vet say about mares chances of foaling? or deformities from her problems? Do they think that these are stroke related from lightening? or nerve damage only. |
| Member: Banthony |
Posted on Tuesday, Jun 13, 2006 - 1:26 pm: Timothy,You are certainly to be commended on your love and attention to your mare. Constant care is wearing on any caretaker. I have had very good luck with putting plasma in eyes. So I hope you do too. I think the breeder meant that at 35 days the embryo hasn't attached itself to the uterine wall yet and is floating in the uterus. That floating cushion protected the baby. At 45 days endometrial cups form and the embryo attaches itself in one of the horns. In which case lightning might have passed into the fetus. Keep up the great work. |
| Member: Mrose |
Posted on Tuesday, Jun 13, 2006 - 3:18 pm: Timothy, I'm glad you posted an update. That is good news about the fetus. And, it sounds like your mare is doing good considering all she's been through. As Linda said, the constant care is wearing, both physically and emotionally, but it will be worth it.The mare mentioned in my first post was paralized on the left side of her head, including her eye, ear, and left side of her mouth. Her eye was the first place to show recovery, after a couple of weeks of constantly putting in DrOps to keep it moist, and message of the face. She didn't have damage to the lens or cornea of the eye that your mare might have though. But, I've heard of remarkable healing with the care you are giving, so I think there's a lot of hope for your mare.I hope you have someone to spell you with her treatments. Best of luck. |
| Member: Mrose |
Posted on Tuesday, Jun 13, 2006 - 3:27 pm: DJ - somehow I missed the fact you lived through and were injured in a tornado. What a terrible experience! No wonder you are afraid of lightening...with good reason. When I was very young I lived in East Texas and have vivid recollection of my grand mother grabbing me and dragging me under a bed so we wouldn't be hit by shattering glass during a bad storm...and another (at a different house) of seeing the sky turn yellow and hearing a tremendous roaring as the sky turned black and we ran for a root celler. Just from memories like that I get very nervous when the sky gets real dark and the clouds start looking funny. You're a brave woman to overcome your experience and resulting fear! |
| Member: Paul303 |
Posted on Tuesday, Jun 13, 2006 - 10:02 pm: Timothy, thanks so very much. A few years back, on this website, we were talking about coverings for an injured eye. Someone gave a website that had a mask with plastic eyecups attached ( about the size of half a baseball ). I believe the cup was tinted for sun protection and I think it also opened for medications to be administered without removing the whole mask.Exposure to first hand experiences like your's is what helps all of us develop a knowledge of skills that we would never normally give a thought to. It would be wonderful to hear more of your mare's progress if you have the time. |
| Member: 9193 |
Posted on Wednesday, Jun 14, 2006 - 12:56 pm: Christos,Thank you for all the information regarding how one might protect an all metal barn from a lightning strike.. I am dubious that any such measures have been taken at our barn, but I will tactfully inquire if there were any grounding efforts made in anticipation of a lightning strike. My gut feeling is that I best hope my horse is standing in his stall on his rubber mats and not eating his grain out of his metal feeder during a storm....(sigh) Smiles, Debra |
| Member: Tpmiller |
Posted on Wednesday, Jun 14, 2006 - 3:06 pm: Eye exam today shows improvement. "Not out of woods yet". There is less of a "dish" at mid point of cornea. Vet believes the half blinders, preventing scratching, have helped as much or more than the serum and eye gels.She also wishes she had pictures from day one, My impression is that the speed of recovery has surprised her. My first discussion with her on that day was whether or not I wanted to try and save her. Time frame does not compute for the baby to have been a "floater" at the time of strike. Attachment typical at 18 days, the final breeding date over three days was 5/9, the strike was either late 5/30 or early 5/31. We will continue to treat eye every two hours during daylight, 1/2 dose oral banamine during darkness. |
| Member: Christos |
Posted on Wednesday, Jun 14, 2006 - 3:46 pm: Sounds like you're doing an excellent job, Tim. I am glad she's better and the baby is well. I hope you're well too. We all know this is not easy, I wish you all courage and strength to help her to a complete recovery. |
| Member: Sunny66 |
Posted on Wednesday, Jun 14, 2006 - 4:52 pm: Timothy, my condolences to you for your wonderful colt...and I too am wishing strength to you and your beautiful mare. |
| Member: Banthony |
Posted on Wednesday, Jun 14, 2006 - 5:00 pm: Dr. O,My understanding was that the embryo was free floating for at least 25 days. Then the temporary attachment(chorionic girdle) forms around day 25. And between 38 and 45 days the endometrial cups develop and form a more permanent attachment. Am I misinformed? |
| New Member: Luthervi |
Posted on Wednesday, Jun 14, 2006 - 5:21 pm: Dear Tim,Being no stranger to grief, I would say that its a part of the process to wonder "what if", however, in my experience, its just a way to hold on to the beloved person or animal that you lost, and blaming yourself or second guessing is a way of holding on despite the logic that there really is no preventing very sad events in life sometimes. My sincere condolences on the loss of your colt,and best of luck with what seems a double miracle- the survival of your brave mare and the steady heartbeat of the baby she carries! ellen |
| Moderator: DrO |
Posted on Thursday, Jun 15, 2006 - 8:34 am: Fixation of the embryo's vesicle does occur around day 16 but actual attachment to the endometrium does not occur until around day 40. The vesicle's fixation, which has been quite mobile the first 15 days, is apparently caused by restriction of the myometrium on each side of the vesicle and not a physical attachement.DrO |
| Member: Tpmiller |
Posted on Friday, Jun 16, 2006 - 7:13 pm: Update 6/16. There are vessels appearing in the cornea, usually a good sign, promote healing. Size of the ulceration remains the same, dye was used to determine fungus, a few small areas which will be treated with another gel. There is a smaller ulceration at the very rear edge of the eyeball. Prognosis is small improvement but guarded. She is producing some tears on her own, the extent of any improvement remains to be seen. She can see objects coming forward from her nose, none to side or rear, the entire cornea remains clouded.The vet is firmly convinced the injuries are directly related to a hard fall, not directly to the lightening, given that the injuries are all concentrated on right side of head and rt. front leg, no sign of burning or singing. The brain was swollen from the fall, explaining the ataxia. There is an impression near where the colt was found, but there is absolutely no sign on or around the tree of lightening damage, they were within 10 feet of a high tensile fence no current on at time, 5 strands, wire coated in vinyl, the fall mark actually goes underneath to the outside of the bottom strand, there is small bank to the outside of the fencing. Had to have been a very violent fall, grass covered, no rocks. We are hopeful,for more improvement of the eye, problematical it will ever return to normal. Flaccidity slowly improving, vet cautioned it may take up to two years to become near normal. Vet states she is 85% improved since day one, 5/31. |
| Member: Shirl |
Posted on Saturday, Jun 17, 2006 - 2:25 am: Timothy,YOu are to be congratulated, blessed and given a pair of wings for the way in which you've handled this situation. Best of luck to you and I'm so happy she is improving. Shirl |
| Member: Mrose |
Posted on Saturday, Jun 17, 2006 - 11:24 pm: All things considered, that's a lot of improvement. I suspect the final part of her improvement will seem to come more slowly.It's interesting about the fall causing the damage; one would just automatically assume most damage was caused by the jolt itself. And...I second Shirley's comments. |
| Member: Tpmiller |
Posted on Thursday, Jul 6, 2006 - 5:04 pm: Five weeks post injury update.Eye treatment changed 6 days ago. Vet theorized the gel (atropine) was not sufficient to penetrate the abscess over the ulceration, vessels were forming from outside towards center, but would go horizontal as if being blocked. The regime currently includes in order *= new: 1-2 DrOps serum (kept refrigerated), from her own blood. 1-2 DrOps (liquid)*Quixin Levofloxacin Optholamic Solution 30 second delay (liquid) * 1-2 DrOps *Itraconazole Opthalamic MIC Atropine sulfate opthalamic gel OTC eye tearer, I vary from an 20% mineral oil -80% white petroleoum to an almost 50-50 mix. The above is done every 2.5-3 hours from 6:00AM to 9:00PM. Eye wash apolied 1X daily. Since the advent of the liquid solutions, there have been significant changes in eye appearance, Over the opast weekend, the ulceration changed from dark greenish to white, the white remains albeit smaller in area. This was a deep and large ulceration. Yesterday, the vet again scraped the eye, cell layers form from inside to surface, where the abcess is thickest, cell formulation is retarded, the liquids are making better penetration, vessels continue to travel towrds the mifddle, the vet, for the first time was able to identify iris and pupil, with a light in front part of eye, it can be seen at the rear of the eye. Mare has finally progresseed to the point that the eye may be saved. Significant weight loss over the past two weeks, halted and beginning to gain, she is fed 1lb moistened pellet called Fibergise, formulated by KER, after each eye treatment, doubled in AM and PM along with a Tri Omega weight enhancer containing high protein, and a Balancer pellet containing all necessary vitamins and minerals approx. 1/4 pound daily. She eats grass, and hay (pulled apart by hand). She is back on antibiotics, dissolved and placed in feed. She gets a half dose of Banamine (orally) after the last treatment at 9PM. Nerve regeneration is a very slow process, 1mm a month(?). She was able to hold her rt. ear up for several seconds, rt. side of mouth remains completely flacid, she has a very slight movement of the eyelid seen for the first time yesterday. She "lists" to the right, however her movement has noticeably improved, she spends most of the day in a large grass paddock. Clearly she is starting to feel better. This is an Arab mare, highly intelligent, athletic, successful on flat track and endurance, not a shrinking violet. She wears half blinkers, to prevent rubbing of the eye, and a fly mask at all times other than when eye is being treated. She has been amazingly cooperative, she does not like all this stuff going in her eye, but she tolerates it, typically I am the treater, with someone else covering 1x daily. It would not be possible to do this with an uncooperative horse. (Two people would be much easier, however, a horse that didn't cooperate would necessitate additional measures, catheter etc., making things much more difficult.) She has some sight directly forward in the eye, I am now, for the first time, hopeful that more sight will be restored, she will of course have scarring. There have been many digital pictures taken by vet of the eye, am sure there will be more, unfortunately there were none taken immediatley after the injury. The vet is kicking herself for that, (this is the top vet in my area), I think she'll still do a paper on it. Most folks seeing this mare on the day of the injury would not have given her much chance of survival. The first question the vet asked me was - did I want to try and save her. The mare had nuzzled me as I was crying, when you have that kind of relationship, there is only one answer. |
| Member: Leilani |
Posted on Thursday, Jul 6, 2006 - 5:38 pm: Timothy,Thank you so much for keeping us posted. You and your mare are very lucky to have each other. Hoping for the best for her, Leilani |
| Member: Ilona |
Posted on Thursday, Jul 6, 2006 - 5:49 pm: Timothy,Thanx for the update. I was told by my vet that it takes a year before you can come to any definitive conclusion regarding nerve regeneration. So take heart, if there has been improvement that is very good as it probably indicates steady progressive regeneration. We are moving soon, and, specifically because of your postings and this thread I declined to even look in certain areas or at certain properties for concern of lightening strikes. So who knows, you may have saved the life of one or more of my horses. The deal with prevention is, if it is successful, you can never be certain as to its effectiveness as the negative element was prevented. There are always so many possible variables. But I do thank you. And I wish your mare well, I certainly understand and respect that devotion. |
| Member: Vickiann |
Posted on Thursday, Jul 6, 2006 - 6:26 pm: Your devotion to the health and wellness of your mare is inspirational and I am glad there are still good people like you out there. You have done all you can for a good outcome and the horse is very fortunate to have such caring attention. I appreciate the mental stress of continuing to give such intensive care. You deserve a good outcome and hope you will attain it. Hang in there! |
| Member: Kthorse |
Posted on Thursday, Jul 6, 2006 - 7:16 pm: I am so happy that your horse is continuing to get better, when you wrote your last sentence it brought tears to my eyes. How can you not love these beautiful animals who give us so much yet ask for so little in return. With the love you show this horse and your determination you deserve a good outcome |
| Member: Mrose |
Posted on Thursday, Jul 6, 2006 - 7:28 pm: Timothy, what is your mare's name? You may have said earlier, but I didn't see it.Thank you so much for posting an update. You and your mare are so blessed to have each other. It may sound trite, but after going through some rough times with a couple of my horses (also Arabs) the comment isn't trite, but heartfelt. These horses are so amazing, and seem to understand so much. Our one stallion, Asmar, that was so seriously injured a few years ago is a case in point. Our vet was afraid he would have to be put down. He said his chance of survival was minimal, in large part because he didn't see how I could possible treat him. Yet Asmar never gave me any problems, and after the first treatment, I could treat him in his stall with no halter on.(flushing a large wound that went all the way to his voice box, plus treating three leg injuries and numerous scrapes and cuts) The faith and trust they have in us......this will just make your bond stronger. It will take a lot of time, as you know, but every moment will be worth it. Best wishes to you both. |
| Member: Warwick |
Posted on Thursday, Jul 6, 2006 - 8:13 pm: Thanks so much for the very encouraging update, Tim. Best wishes for your incredibly stoic mare's continued recovery. Both of you deserve medals.Sue |
| Member: Djws |
Posted on Thursday, Jul 6, 2006 - 9:56 pm: Timothy-What a wonderful caretaker you are! Your girl is is blessed (in more ways than one). I wish you... continued patience and strength. I wish your mare... continued improvement and comfort. The love between you will certainly promote her healing. You both remain in my prayers. |
| Member: Banthony |
Posted on Friday, Jul 7, 2006 - 9:10 am: Timothy,Thanks for the update. You are an inspiration to us all! |
| Member: Christos |
Posted on Friday, Jul 7, 2006 - 9:48 am: Thanks for the update, Tim, you both set an example.Nothing as touching as a caring horseman and a beautiful horse just not quitting on each other in hardships. |
| Moderator: DrO |
Posted on Friday, Jul 7, 2006 - 9:53 am: Thanks for the update Timothy. I think someone has their distances mixed up as that should be 1mm per day but that still is only a little over a inch a month. The eye sounds improving but not out of the woods. Wishing you all the best. Be sure to take some time to relax, these sorts of constant around the clock treatments make days seem like weeks.DrO |
| Member: Tpmiller |
Posted on Saturday, Jul 8, 2006 - 7:16 pm: Very much appreciate all the kind words.Sara- her name is Patriot Games (Patriot Missle x Wikings Dream). The colt's father is R-Kon, 93% CMK, colt was double Kontiki and double Wiking. "Patty" has been referred to by others as an "in your tent" mare. Saying goes back to the ancient Bedouin days, the lead war mare had her place inside with the tribal head. Her half sister was an embryo transplant, birthed and raised by a standardbred mare, interesting study of nature/nurture. She is very different in personality from Patty, who was raised by her genetic mother. Transplants have become almost standard at the bigger Arabian racing farms. There is a reason I wanted Patty to raise her own foal. They learn so much from their birth mother, she was a good mom, and will be again. |
| Member: Mrose |
Posted on Sunday, Jul 9, 2006 - 1:27 am: Timothy, I appoligize; I see you mentioned her name before. I just didn't remember. Wow! Great breeding! How old is she? I certainly hope she fully recovers and you're able to breed her again. I think she will. That "heart," determination and "fight" that makes a good race horse, also makes a horse that will fight for survival. And, with her blood lines, she certainly has the breeding of a great race horse!I know about those "in the tent" mares! I have one. They are very special! It is easy to see why the "head mares" were prized higher than any of the other horses, including the stallions. I am curious; what differences do you see in Patty and her half-sister? Is Patty more "Arab" like in disposition? btw - how are you holding up? I hope you're able to follow Dr. O's advice and take a much needed break now and then, even a short one. |
| Member: Paul303 |
Posted on Monday, Jul 10, 2006 - 1:38 am: Thanks from me, too. Your updates mean a lot.Sara mentioned breeding her again...did I miss something? Has she lost the foal? I'm having trouble keeping up as I have a mare with a huge gash, and a neighbor with a boarding stable and emergency quintuple bypass...and beef cattle..and dogs..birds..chickens..et.al. I've been running since 6/19. It was starting to get to me, then I saw your post......I'm OK now. Bless you. |
| Member: Qh4me |
Posted on Monday, Jul 10, 2006 - 11:54 am: TimYou are definitely an inspiration to us all. Your dedication to this mare and her upmost care is so admirable, it brings tears to my eyes. As the other posts have said, you both deserve a positive outcome and I am wishing that for you both. I hope she is still confirmed in foal, however, if the she has lost it, I am praying she will again one day produce some beautiful babies for you. She sounds like such a beautiful mare with so much heart! Reading your posts...it makes me appreciate what we have, and that all my animals are healthy at this time. |
| Member: Tpmiller |
Posted on Thursday, Jul 13, 2006 - 3:23 pm: She is pregnant, will do another ultrasound at some point.Met a young lady online after the tragedy, she worked at the farm Patty and her half sister were born, she was a big fan of their mom, HoF track mare, who tragically died at age 9 (eerie, Patty is same age now, the mother died of progressive bouts of colic, had the half sister not been transplanted, she'd have gone with her). Some pictures she shared of Patty and her half sister as youngsters (they're both white now)- https://www.bookwyrm.org/phantom/patty.html Her half sister is more laid back, Less "araby" fits. One rat study, hard to attribute that solely to being raised by a different birth mother, there is no research on the subject I can find. The young lady who was there has shared a lot of info that makes me certain allowing Patty to be the the birth mom was the right choice. Eye has changed a great deal over past 10 days, vessels are really trying to penetrate the abcess, which is getting smaller, she is able to use the lid slightly. Vets are pleased that we are finally making some progress. She's improved greatly in her movement, more steady, am sure this is the best she's felt since it happened. I have found it fascinating how horses are so keenly aware of the attitude of humans around them. Have witnessed a rider's illness cause Patty's heart rate to decrease far slower than normal in competition. There's a reason some endurance riders' laugh, talk and sing to their horses towards the end of a long ride. Staying upbeat when around her has helped, both of us. |
| Member: Shirl |
Posted on Thursday, Jul 13, 2006 - 4:42 pm: Timothy,So happy things are turning around, and you are doing such a wonderful - wonderful job with your horse. Yes, they certainly do pick up the emotions of others around them. You deserve a gold star, wings and all things good. Shirl |
| Member: Paul303 |
Posted on Saturday, Jul 15, 2006 - 2:54 am: Tim: Did you mention that the vets said that most of her injuries were from impact from a fall? I don't understand how the abcess occurred from a whole body impact. Was there a penetration from a foreign body or maybe a rupture from impact? For some reason, I just need to understand....sorry. |
| Member: Tpmiller |
Posted on Saturday, Jul 15, 2006 - 10:03 am: Lee- all injuries were from a violent impact with the ground. From the position of the colt and where the mare clearly impact the ground, she was thrown forward several yards and down on a slight slope, with the rt. side of her head sustaining a hard blow when contacting the ground. She probably inflicted the leg injury or travelling to the barn, some 300 yards distant. I originally thought the leg wound was the discharge of electric, but given no evidence of burning, she did it to herself, either getting up or returning to barn, some 300 yards in distance.It is a wonder her neck was not broken. Aside from the rt. side of head, the only other injury was rt. front leg, at elbow, hole extending 6-8 inches upward. Aside from some minor skin scuffs on rt. side of body, and the front leg, all the impact was to the rt. side of head, which was swollen. The 'ulceration' of the rt. eye was deep and extensive. Nerve damage caused rt. side of mouth to be open and flaccid, rt. ear DrOop. She moved "tilting" towards her right side, very unsteady at outset. The eye has gone through a series of changes, at outset swollen and dark green, it took several days to actually see the ulceration, as the vet called it. Very dark green, surrounded by dark red, all the damaged vessels. Tremendous trauma to the eyeball. In time, the ulceration "abscessed", when we added the liquid DrOps, the pupil turned white, defining a thick abscess. The original gels were not able to penetrate through the abscess, the liquids appear to be penetrating and dissolving the abscess. The "white" area is diminishing, centered now at the most 'outward" point of the eye, think of it as a marble, the hardest impact was at the outward edge, eye center. The vessels regenerate from the inside - out, the ulceration became abscessed, prevented the vessels from penetrating to the center, literally one could see them going correctly vertical towards the center and then turn horizontal. She had precious few cellular "layers" left at the outset. That remains true today in the lower front quadrant, the battle is lost if we see a "tear DrOp" in the cells. Given the vast improvement recently, I'm fairly confident the eye will be saved, she will never have the vision she had, there will be scarring, and it may take a long time for the all the tear ducts to function properly. Her sight today, to use the marble analogy, would be at the "edges" or outer circumference. There have been pictures taken, at some point I will speak with the vet about putting the case history online for a professional presentation. Her recovery to date was unexpected, this vet is a remarkable woman. I know her original thinking was that the horse couldn't be saved, then she rolled her sleeves up and said, we are going to save her... |
| Member: Mrose |
Posted on Sunday, Jul 16, 2006 - 12:16 am: Tim - re-reading your mare's history, it is so amazing she is in as good a shape as she is. Thank God for your vet, and for your dedication. |
| Member: Mrose |
Posted on Sunday, Jul 16, 2006 - 4:19 pm: Just got around to looking at your pictures. Thanks so much for posting them. Love them!! I can't believe how much Patty looks like a mare we used to have when she was the same age. I'll try and post a picture. She is Egyptian breeding and is up in N. Utah now. |
| Member: Paul303 |
Posted on Monday, Jul 17, 2006 - 2:33 am: Thank you, Tim. I guess I have some buried issues that I just never dealt with when I lost my horse to lightning strike. A kiss to your "gal", prayers and best wishes for continued improvement. I'll be needing more posts, Tim. |
| Member: Djws |
Posted on Friday, Jul 28, 2006 - 2:33 pm: Hi Tim!Just wondering how everything is going for you, and Patty. When you have time, please let us know. |
| Member: Banthony |
Posted on Friday, Jul 28, 2006 - 3:34 pm: We had a terrible lightning storm last night - no rain just lightning. I saw a big flash and then heard a crack that seemed to have hit in our big pasture. The two fillies in the pasture were not under the trees at the time. But the noise frightened them and they ran around frantically.This morning we saw that the lightning had hit the big tree up the hill just on the other side of our fence. Our neighbor's beautiful Quarter Horse is slumped at the base. Very sad. I am thankful our fillies didn't get hit. |
| Member: Hwood |
Posted on Saturday, Jul 29, 2006 - 12:17 am: Dear Linda,Where are you located? The lightning strike you had last night must have traveled our direction, because tonight, there was such a crash after the rain stopped (a bomb couldn't sound much different), that the house rumbled for 20 seconds afterwards. Last July, two horses were killed by lightning here in Wellington. I looked to see if there was any evidence of fire or any thundering of hooves after the strike, but all was quiet. I hope we won't find anything as sad as your neighbor's horse in the morning. |
| Member: Banthony |
Posted on Saturday, Jul 29, 2006 - 8:46 pm: Holly,I'm in Ocala, FL. I found out today that it wasn't their Quarter Horse, but one of her daughter's jumpers that was taken off the show circuit on a two month lay-off to heal an injury. The groom said there was no evident damage to the tree (which is hard to believe.) The strike evidently hit the horses back and exited out the front legs which exploded. (Sorry if this is too graphic.) It is very scary as we have so much lightning here. |
| Member: Mrose |
Posted on Sunday, Jul 30, 2006 - 1:19 am: OMG!! How terrible! People think I'm nuts for being so nervous about all the lightening we are getting this year. They don't know about incidents like this one.The neighbors were out moving irrigation pipe the other night in a fierce storm. It scared me silly to see them! Stay safe. |
| Member: Tpmiller |
Posted on Saturday, Aug 5, 2006 - 8:05 am: DJ-Vets are pleased with her progress. The abscess on the eye is gone. We continue to treat with anti-fungal meds and tear inducers. She has some partial eyesight and the lid is increasing movement. Feels better, trots, infrequently falls on her right. Slight improvement in ear and mouth flaccidity. No change in personality. I have talked to a lot of folks who've gone through this with survivors, the worst outcomes I have heard are mental changes, horses survive but had to be put down. I have a lot to be thankful for. While it pains me to see her like this, and I think about the colt every day, I realize how fortunate I've been. Less than 8 weeks ago, there was a question as to whether she could be saved at all. This week we confirmed viable pregnancy. There's a number of people who deserve credit for her recovery, but at bottom it was this mare's heart that mattered most. Her lineage goes back to the war mare Wadduda on sire side- https://www.wadduda.com/ With any luck, we'll see the following in our pastures next spring, (the colt was 80 hours old in this picture)- 
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| Member: Christos |
Posted on Saturday, Aug 5, 2006 - 8:44 am: A horse that takes lightning in the face and lives to show the scars is no less warhorse than any ever existed.One can not but bow to her. Congratulations to the whole team. |
| Member: Kthorse |
Posted on Saturday, Aug 5, 2006 - 9:25 am: Timothy, I have been following your story. I am so happy about the outcome. I grew up on arabian stud in Australia our breeding program is for endurance champions. We had quite a few imported who did extremly well. The arabs wanted to buy my mums main sire as his offspring won everywhere. He was not for sale at any price.I hope you get to have your little champion. Wonderful job of bringing her around. True love. Katrina |
| Member: Vickiann |
Posted on Saturday, Aug 5, 2006 - 10:54 am: What wonderful news, Timothy. You have truly earned a good outcome, as has your mare. I know what you mean about the heart of these horses. The Arab I ride most of the time only cost $1700 at a charity auction, but I wouldn't take a million dollars for him. |
| Member: Tpmiller |
Posted on Monday, Sep 18, 2006 - 8:40 am: Nerve regeneration has resulted in full functioning of rt. ear.Balance has returned, trots in pasture. Pinpoint scar remains on eye, currently treated 2x daily with tear enhancer, 1x a day with antibiotics applied topically. Half blinders removed, she does not rub the eye. She puts her head down and swings to the right frequently, vets all agree this is reaction to nerve regeneration she feels. There remains flaccidity in rt. side of mouth, resolving very slowly, estimates up to 18 months, however she is DrOpping less feed. Her coat and overall appearance has returned to normal. Hope to be able to post pictures of the eye at different stages of healing. We have been very fortunate. There was a strong bond between this mare and I before this happened. I don't have the words to explain what that bond is today, but I hope each of you experience that deep level with your equines. |
| Member: Hwood |
Posted on Monday, Sep 18, 2006 - 9:21 am: What exceptional and amazing results from such a terrible experience, timothy. Very happy to hear of your special mare's continued healing and functioning. Your dedication and commitment is exemplary . . . and I really think, if you can manage, you should write about your experience and submit it to one of your favorite equine publications. I am sure that other horse owners and veterinarians will be extremely interested in the treatment and healing that has come from the initial tragedy. May your mare continue to heal and may your bond with her contine for many, many years. |
| Member: Mrose |
Posted on Monday, Sep 18, 2006 - 10:23 am: Thank you so much for posting, Timothy. I think of you and your mare every time we have a thunder storm. I'm so glad she has made so much progress! I agree with Holly regarding writing an article. I would think it would be right up Equus' alley, as well as some of the other mags. I look forward to seeing pictures; how about one of the two of you?I totally understand that bond you have. It's very special. I feel it's an honor to have. |
| Member: Vickiann |
Posted on Monday, Sep 18, 2006 - 11:35 am: Wonderful news Timothy! Thanks for sharing this with us. I understand about the deepening of bonds and trust when one provides intensive care over a period of time. This is a "silver lining" or blessing that comes with such hardship. |
| Member: Kathleen |
Posted on Monday, Sep 18, 2006 - 2:08 pm: Timothy,Thank you for letting us know. We think of the two of you often. I, too, am looking forward to pictures. I feel like taking a deep breath now (a sigh of relief, I guess). Kathleen |
| Member: Djws |
Posted on Monday, Sep 18, 2006 - 3:13 pm: Timothy-I, too, think of you each time we have a storm. Your devotion to your mare (I'm certain), has been the primary reason for her healing. Love, and trust, does wonderful things to all living creatures. Indeed, it is a blessing to have the special bond between you, and your horse. May her road to healing continue... all uphill. DJ |
| Member: Ilona |
Posted on Monday, Sep 18, 2006 - 8:18 pm: Hi TimothyI'm so glad you posted an update as you come to mind frequently for me...frankly you are inspiring in your dedication and whenever I feel that tinge of laziness (help me I'm human!) I sometimes think of all you have done for your horse and am galvanized into action. My husband (yes, we got married, plan on doing a Jewish wedding on horseback next month...Rabbi's are resistant, something about smashing that glass on horseback is freaking them out!) said something very pertinent a while back. Doing your best doesn't really matter because you don't know what that is or will be...what matters is doing what needs to be done. Timothy, you inspire by doing what needs to be done. |
| Member: Canter |
Posted on Monday, Sep 18, 2006 - 10:13 pm: It does my heart good to know how well your mare is coming along, Timothy. I congratulate you on your efforts and dedication...it has obviously paid off in her recovery and in the increased bond between the two of you. There's a place in heaven for people like you... |
| Moderator: DrO |
Posted on Tuesday, Sep 19, 2006 - 6:59 am: Thanks for the update, and congratulations, this sounds like it might become a full recovery.DrO |
| Member: Warwick |
Posted on Tuesday, Sep 19, 2006 - 2:26 pm: That is wonderful news, Tim. Many thanks for updating us on how everything has turned out.Ilona - congratulations! |
| Member: Paul303 |
Posted on Tuesday, Sep 19, 2006 - 10:26 pm: It makes my heart smile. |
| New Member: Adriaa |
Posted on Thursday, Dec 14, 2006 - 1:01 pm: Hi,A tragic thing, but I just wanted to add my 2 cents. Last year in my area, Western Mass, 5 horses were killed in 2 different locations in one night by lightning. It was a horrible and shocking thing. I'm glad your mare survived. I'm sorry for your colt. Lightning is a scary thing. |
| Member: tpmiller |
Posted on Monday, Jan 29, 2007 - 2:43 pm: Several pictures-Her eye at about 12 weeks post-injury, (this was not the worst it looked) Her eye currently- She continues to shake her head to the right, attributed to the "tingling" sensation she feels from nerve regeneration. She no longer DrOps feed, is able to eat "hard" treats. Her right eye will react to hand movement from every direction, although she does not have the clear vision she once had. There has been no discernable personality change. Her ear was first to fully recover, I was told at the outset that full recovery of head may take 18 months or longer, currently at month 8. She no longer receives any eye treatment. At the time of the strike, the little one she was carrying was two weeks old. She is due early April. It will be a very special foal. |
| Member: zarr |
Posted on Monday, Jan 29, 2007 - 4:15 pm: Timothy, on a day in desperate need of GOOD news yours is very welcome!! You will post pictures minutes after your new foal arrives correct!!?? Thank you for keeping all of us current. Cindy |
| Member: canter |
Posted on Monday, Jan 29, 2007 - 4:18 pm: GREAT news! Can't wait to hear about further improvements and about the new baby. Kudos to you for the excellent care to your mare. |
| Member: dres |
Posted on Monday, Jan 29, 2007 - 4:34 pm: I can't wait to see a foal update.. Excellent up date..thanks.. On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with spots.. |
| Member: ilona |
Posted on Monday, Jan 29, 2007 - 7:59 pm: Timothy,What a great recovery...nerve regeneration is wonderful to witness. She has partial sight in her eye, her mouth is no longer flacid, she looks great. You have been very good to her and the results speak for themselves. Well Done. I look forward to pictures of her foal. |
| Member: djws |
Posted on Monday, Jan 29, 2007 - 9:49 pm: Mr. Timothy-I have been reading HA news to my mom as she is not well. When I read this one to her-she became very emotional. She has asked me to send you her best regards and says this is evidence of what love and faith can do. She indeed believes in miracles. Many blessings to you and your horses. Sarah |
| Member: mrose |
Posted on Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 - 12:01 am: Timothy, I am so glad for you! Your mare looks great, bless her soul. Like many others, I will anxiously await a new foal announcement and pictures! A job well done...and maybe some miracle work also. |
| Member: frances |
Posted on Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 - 5:56 am: Incredible recovery, Timothy. Congratulations on all that your dedication has achieved. |
| Member: qh4me |
Posted on Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 - 10:07 am: Excellent news. I too am awaiting pictures of the precious new foal. |
| Member: sonoita |
Posted on Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 - 10:52 am: Yeah ! Timothy,Ditto on the pics. Good Luck! Happy TRails |
| Member: hpyhaulr |
Posted on Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 - 11:42 am: Timothy,I was up WAY past my bedtime reading this frightening and fascinating thread. I am constantly reminded on this site of how very lucky I have been. During severe storms I always have my kids in the barn, and now I know how false my security has been. I am always torn as I want to be in the barn with them, but our JRT is TERRIFIED of the light & sound show, and he just about climbs in my skin and wants the blanket over him no matter the temp. I am seriously considering getting some ace to get him through storm season this year so I can go to the barn and leave him under the covers on his own. Sometimes the power of nature is so gorgeous here, but after reading all this, I don't think I will ever see it quite the same way again. I came down here from Long Island,NY where you have nor'easters, blizzards and hurricanes. Most of us had basements, or interior stairways for those times, and we all knew where the fallout shelters and storm shelters were.My first storm season here, I was out on ROute 9 on my way home with the top down, and Thank God, had the radio on when the tornado warnings started. I called Walt who, typically, was out west somewhere, and asked him where I should go with Elvis (our JRT). "There is nowhere." SILENCE "OK, that was fun, now really, where do I go?" "Really, there is nowhere" "Seriously, is there a shelter at town hall or the school, the hospital?" "Good God, don't go there! Just grab the dog, a putter and lay down in a ditch" "putter???" "yeah, for snakes" I had the wine poured within seconds after I got home. Thank God, I did not go to the school a mile away... the roof was ripped off. More wine. Elvis and I rode it out in the closet, with the putter.... don't ask me why. |
| Member: hpyhaulr |
Posted on Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 - 11:44 am: ps.... thank you for the education and the inspiration... can't wait to see the foal. It will have a LOT of Godparents!!! |
| Member: sunny66 |
Posted on Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 - 12:57 pm: Absolutely wonderful news!!! |
| Member: judyh |
Posted on Wednesday, Apr 25, 2007 - 9:33 am: As I have not heard any news of a foal arriving in early April, I'm leery of asking. Tim, has your wonderful mare foaled?Judy H |
| Member: tpmiller |
Posted on Wednesday, Apr 25, 2007 - 10:07 am: Thanks for asking Judy.Anytime now. Nerve regeneration continues, she shakes her head to the right and upwards. Hard to believe its been less than a year since the accident, her improvement has been remarkable. We'll post picture(s). |
| Member: judyh |
Posted on Wednesday, Apr 25, 2007 - 2:15 pm: Thanks for the update. Perhaps Sara's Libby will come home and your new baby will arrive the same day. I can't wait to see pictures of both arrivals.Hmmmm, are we allowed to combine posts? Judy H |
| Member: sonoita |
Posted on Wednesday, Apr 25, 2007 - 9:38 pm: thinking of you and your wonderful mare.Happy Trails |
| Member: paardex |
Posted on Thursday, Apr 26, 2007 - 6:43 am: Judy,if we keep the posts separate we can toast twice! I think THIS mare deserves we drink a glass to her health too!Jos |
| Moderator: DrO |
Posted on Thursday, Apr 26, 2007 - 11:01 am: I agree two toasts are twice as good as one. Sounds like a trip to the local beverage store in order.DrO |
| Member: judyh |
Posted on Thursday, Apr 26, 2007 - 11:07 am: Hadn't looked at it that way, Jos, but you do make a good point.Tim, in going back through the thread I see that you are in Pennsylvania. I live in Central Bucks County. If you are not too far, I would love to come and meet the remarkable Patty. In July we will be traveling to the Grove City area for a family reunion, so that covers a large area of "not too far." Judy H |
| Member: mrose |
Posted on Thursday, Apr 26, 2007 - 12:08 pm: Timothy, I'm really looking forward to seeing your pictures! Please let us know when your wonderful mare foals.Who says miracles can't happen?!! |
| Member: sunny66 |
Posted on Thursday, Apr 26, 2007 - 3:50 pm: I'm in for two toasts! Timothy, I'll be on pins and needles until you post pics!
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| Member: tpmiller |
Posted on Thursday, Apr 26, 2007 - 5:02 pm: Head vet out today, she had not seen Patty since before the eye treatments stopped, her assistants were the regulars towards end of active treatment.Low key, but very pleased with what she saw, even her assistant, who had probably made the most visits of anyone was amazed. Seems there are many "late" mares in the area this year. The foal predictor indicates she's most likely days away. Appreciate the interest. We're blessed to still have her. And some great vets. Judy, you're certainly welcome to DrOp in, 6 miles from the I-78 / I-81 split. e-mail shf@paonline.com. Mare who did well in last year's 50 mile U.S. endurance championship ride while 2 months pregnant is due late July. |
| Member: lilo |
Posted on Thursday, Apr 26, 2007 - 9:04 pm: Here is a toast to your mare and her dedicated owner, Timothy. May all go well with the foaling,Lilo |
| Member: mrose |
Posted on Thursday, Apr 26, 2007 - 10:56 pm: A second toast to your mare,Timothy! I've just reread your thread; you're right - no wonder she's so tough! Can't beat that old blood! Let us know when she foals so we can toast both mare and foal!
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| Member: tpmiller |
Posted on Sunday, Apr 29, 2007 - 10:43 am: Filly arrived at 3 AM today.Textbook. Mom and daughter fine, enjoying the weather in small dry paddock area in front of stall. Lower marking eerily looks like a lightening bolt. 
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| Member: mrose |
Posted on Sunday, Apr 29, 2007 - 10:59 am: I enlarged your picture so I could see it better, and my gosh, you're right! How weird!What a sweet looking little filly. I'd love to see more pictures of her. Wow!! You've got two miracles there; mom and a beautiful filly and both doing fine. Congratulations!! And, a toast tonight!
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| Member: sswiley |
Posted on Sunday, Apr 29, 2007 - 10:59 am: Dang ! what a bunch of happy endings this week.All due to the care and diligence of the owners. |
| Member: dres |
Posted on Sunday, Apr 29, 2007 - 11:02 am: MORE PLEASE !~ Makes my heart dance with excitment for all these happy beginnings..On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with spots.. |
| Member: quatro |
Posted on Sunday, Apr 29, 2007 - 11:34 am: Congrats on the baby. What a great reward for a job well done. Give mom and baby a big ((((hug))) from me and Levi too!Enjoy Yes more pictures of mom and baby too |
| Member: zarr |
Posted on Sunday, Apr 29, 2007 - 11:39 am: Tim, CONGRATULATIONS on so many levels! The thunder cloud above the lightening bolt below her name will have to be special,the native americans would say she carries her totem for all to see very powerful sign! lots more pics Please! ...... Cindy |
| Member: paul303 |
Posted on Sunday, Apr 29, 2007 - 12:54 pm: How sweet it is! |
| Member: hwood |
Posted on Sunday, Apr 29, 2007 - 2:05 pm: Congratulations, Tim and family. Here's another story to be written about hope, and triumphing over the trials that come to us in life. . . .Don't tell, Tim . . . let us guess her name . . .ummmm Sara . . . how did you enlarge the pic? Did you save it to your computer and then edit it? Is there a way to do it without saving it? |
| Member: 36541 |
Posted on Sunday, Apr 29, 2007 - 2:24 pm: Oh so amazing!! Congrats to all involved and happy wishes that you have somewhat more routine years to come with the pair. I'd love to see a pic of them together if you get one. Your vet/s must be slack-jawed with joy! Stacy |
| Member: sunny66 |
Posted on Sunday, Apr 29, 2007 - 2:57 pm: How wonderful!!!! Your heart must be brimming over with joy Congratulations!!!!! What will you name her? and yes, more pics please
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| Member: image |
Posted on Sunday, Apr 29, 2007 - 3:01 pm: Oh, how very wonderful! Congratulations! I have an idea for her paddock name although it is a bit long....Ms. Harry Potter! (he had a lightning bolt mark on his forehead too!)Charlayne |
| Member: judyh |
Posted on Sunday, Apr 29, 2007 - 3:18 pm: Just got home from A Day (Agricultural Day)at the local college and checked my mail right away to see if the baby had arrived, and Hooray!! she has. I'm so relieved that both or should I say, all three, are fine. You could name her Harriette or Hermione. And, as everyone else, I want more pictures.Judy H P.S. Time for another chocolate milk toast; wine or beer for the rest of you. |
| Member: adriaa |
Posted on Sunday, Apr 29, 2007 - 3:32 pm: Congratulations Tim, how wonderful! Maybe you should name her Stormy. Amazing story and great ending. |
| Member: mrose |
Posted on Sunday, Apr 29, 2007 - 3:37 pm: Holly, I saved it to desktop and enlarged with Photoshop. There may be another way to do it, but I'm not that computer savy. |
| Member: lilo |
Posted on Sunday, Apr 29, 2007 - 4:16 pm: Congratulations! I have some wine left for a toast tonight!Lilo |
| Member: shirl |
Posted on Sunday, Apr 29, 2007 - 7:35 pm: Tim,My joys go along with everyone else's on the new arrival. The marking's and background experiences require a special name. Sending good wishes. Shirl |
| Member: quatro |
Posted on Sunday, Apr 29, 2007 - 9:33 pm: At toast to the new member of the HA family!suz |
| Member: 5691 |
Posted on Monday, Apr 30, 2007 - 3:07 am: Tim,I am so happy for you,your family, your mare and for the safe arrival of your sweet filly!! Congradulations and may your mare continue her amazing recovery as the filly begins her life's journey. Smiles, Debra |
| Member: qh4me |
Posted on Monday, Apr 30, 2007 - 10:31 am: Tim,What a precious gift and such a happy ending. Congrats! She will certainly need a special name. An amazing journey for all of you. |
| Member: caroltd |
Posted on Monday, Apr 30, 2007 - 10:51 am: Tim:I think Sara is right about her markings. What is the Arabic for Thunderbolt I wonder? What a lovely little girl. Congratulations! Carol |
| Member: leilani |
Posted on Monday, Apr 30, 2007 - 3:25 pm: Tim and Mom,Congratulations. Leilani |
| Member: albionsh |
Posted on Monday, Apr 30, 2007 - 3:25 pm: Tim--beautiful sweet filly! So glad for the happy news of her arrival. |
| Member: tpmiller |
Posted on Monday, Apr 30, 2007 - 5:24 pm: Truly overwhelmed by the kindness of you good people.What draws us together is a love for horses and desire to promote their welfare. Since Sunday morning mom and daughter have spent most of their time in a dry paddock in front of the birthing stall. Isn't it amazing to watch a newborns progression through their first days of life? Precious moments never to be forgotten. We are all blessed to have horses as our companions. They teach us more than we realize. We're still contemplating names. Little girl has a long life ahead of her. Thank you for your kind words. Know they are much appreciated. |
| Member: tpmiller |
Posted on Monday, Apr 30, 2007 - 9:48 pm: This is a link with pictures of the entire birth process.The young lady who took them and assisted was present at Patty's birth, and first to saddle and ride her. https://www.bookwyrm.org/phantom/pattyfoal07 |
| Member: quatro |
Posted on Monday, Apr 30, 2007 - 10:42 pm: Wow, that was awesome! What a treat. Thanks for sharing. I can't believe how her marking certainly tells her story!You have already a bond for life with both Mom and baby. suz |
| Member: frances |
Posted on Tuesday, May 1, 2007 - 7:07 am: What an amazing record of the birth - it was really moving to see. Congratulations on all you've done to make this possible against such odds! |
| Moderator: DrO |
Posted on Tuesday, May 1, 2007 - 7:25 am: A wonderful photo history Tim and a excellent review for any who wishes to see a step by step foaling.DrO |
| Member: sunny66 |
Posted on Tuesday, May 1, 2007 - 10:23 am: Tim, thank you so much! I absolutely LOVE the pictures... Patty is absolutely stunning, and that carries over to the beauty of your filly. The love they obviously have for you I'm sure brings joy to your heart. What a fabulous way to start my day. Thanks again ps... please let us know what you name her
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| Member: qh4me |
Posted on Tuesday, May 1, 2007 - 10:37 am: Tim,What an excellent history of the birth. Not all have had the opportunity to see the complete progress. Thank you for sharing. How wonderful of bond you will have with this baby. Mom looks so peaceful with you napping with her! You have come such a long way and deserve many happy times with these 2. Congrats again! |
| Member: zarr |
Posted on Tuesday, May 1, 2007 - 11:18 am: Tim, what a wonderful gift you have been given THANK YOU for sharing! Cindy |
| Member: dtranch |
Posted on Tuesday, May 1, 2007 - 12:02 pm: Tim .. a great story and a wonderful outcome. You can not beat the bond you get with the horses in our lives. Job well done by all.DT |
| Member: annes |
Posted on Tuesday, May 1, 2007 - 12:13 pm: Tim - I've only had one mare to foal during my years of having horses but I missed the event. I am sure this is the closest I will ever be to a foaling and it meant a lot to be able to see your pictures. Thanks so much for sharing! |
| Member: lhenning |
Posted on Tuesday, May 1, 2007 - 1:34 pm: Loved the pictures! What a happy ending to an amazing story. Best of luck to you and your gals!Linda |
| Member: lilo |
Posted on Tuesday, May 1, 2007 - 7:50 pm: Beautiful series of photos. I have never seen a foal being born. Amazing how those babies have to learn to manage those long, long legs to stand up and be able to nurse.Thanks for sharing, Lilo |
| Member: paardex |
Posted on Wednesday, May 2, 2007 - 1:30 pm: Beautiful photos! So happy this horrible accident has still such a good ending.Jos |
| Member: sonoita |
Posted on Wednesday, May 2, 2007 - 8:37 pm: Wonderful!!!!!!Happy Trails |
| Member: muffi |
Posted on Friday, May 4, 2007 - 12:35 am: OH MY those are the most amazing photos I have seen in well at least forever! thank you so much for sharing. I love my boy and have fantasized about having a foal in my life. But I think that those photos will be about as close as I will get. thank you so much (oh I said that already) but I mean it simply amazing. |
| Member: muffi |
Posted on Friday, May 4, 2007 - 12:42 am: OH MY those are the most amazing photos I have seen in well at least forever! thank you so much for sharing. I love my boy and have fantasized about having a foal in my life. But I think that those photos will be about as close as I will get. thank you so much (oh I said that already) but I mean it simply amazing. Tim you are lucky - enjoy every moment of it - no your not lucky you are blessed! |
| Member: canter |
Posted on Friday, May 4, 2007 - 10:50 am: Awww...wonderful pictures!! The foal is just adorable. Congrats again! |
| Member: 36541 |
Posted on Friday, May 4, 2007 - 4:32 pm: Wow Tim. what a beautiful pair!! Your mare really has the look of eagles, such presence. Best wishes to all of you, and hope you are finally getting some good sleep at night! Stacy |
| Member: tpmiller |
Posted on Monday, Jul 2, 2007 - 6:28 pm: R Gamer is in her 9th week, she and Mom are doing fine.One of the last pictures on the thread above, where I am lying with her outside the morning of her birth, was published in the June issue of "Arabian Finish Line "magazine. Approached recently by someone interested in writing an uplifting children's book. Communicated to the potential author how much the folks participating in this thread meant to me. Week two staying in step with Mom. 
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| Member: leilani |
Posted on Monday, Jul 2, 2007 - 7:01 pm: Timothy,A beautiful picture. Leilani |
| Member: mrose |
Posted on Monday, Jul 2, 2007 - 7:51 pm: Oh what a beautiful picture!! Just the feeling of sheer joy at being alive!I haven't seen Arabian Finish Line for a long time; I'll have to go online and get a copy. I just can't say enough about your dedication and preserverence, Timothy. But that picture you posted really says it all when you look at your early posts/pictures! |
| Member: quatro |
Posted on Monday, Jul 2, 2007 - 10:04 pm: Cool Timothy, that is the greatest story! I am sure sharing it with Children and Adults alike, would bring a tear to anyone's eye.Thanks for keeping us all posted suz |
| Member: ajudson1 |
Posted on Tuesday, Jul 3, 2007 - 12:14 am: Just reviewed the pictures and story. Speechless. Let us know if there's a book, I definately want a copy.Please post pictures of the foal as she grows. |
| Member: paul303 |
Posted on Tuesday, Jul 3, 2007 - 1:32 am: Hey, if a book comes along.......will we be able to purchase autographed copies??? 'Cause I'm sure there are a bunch of us who would want them!!! |
| Member: canter |
Posted on Tuesday, Jul 3, 2007 - 7:41 am: Lovely joyful picture! Makes my day! |
| Member: paardex |
Posted on Tuesday, Jul 3, 2007 - 7:50 am: I would like a copy with two hoofprints.What a beautiful picture! Jos |
| Member: frances |
Posted on Tuesday, Jul 3, 2007 - 8:11 am: Just wonderful to see how life goes on. They look so happy and free together! And this outcome is due to your extraordinary efforts - your dedication has been amazing. |
| Member: lilo |
Posted on Tuesday, Jul 3, 2007 - 9:38 am: Made my day! (not in the Clint Eastwood kind of way)Thanks for keeping us updated. We hope the book becomes reality! Lilo |
| Member: judyh |
Posted on Tuesday, Jul 3, 2007 - 10:44 am: Hi Tim - what a pretty picture. I will be heading out the turnpike the last weekend in July. I'm hoping to talk the family into a small detour to see your wonderful mother and child and you too, of course. I have your email address and will contact you before to make sure it is convenient. There is also the trip back if that would be better. I know everyone else is jealous. |
| Member: zarr |
Posted on Tuesday, Jul 3, 2007 - 11:14 am: My mental bell had been ringing that it was past time for you to check in Tim .... Thank you so much! On another web site I was able to pass on your info dealing with lightening strike and it helped her sooo much! Cindy |
| Member: tpmiller |
Posted on Wednesday, Jul 4, 2007 - 9:03 am: Judy-contact me.Coincidentally, have a mare due to foal that week-end. Last year she did her last two 50 mile competitions while pregnant, ending with the national championship ride. Same sire as Gamer. |
| Member: ilona |
Posted on Saturday, Jul 7, 2007 - 8:48 am: Hi Tim,I'm late to this post this time around, however I was not surprisingly moved to see these pictures. What a phenomenal outcome. I remember when she was first hit by lightning the vet suggested euthanizing her and your instant refusal and great dedication. As I said you experience really influenced where I moved with my horses. Your diligent treatment of your mare was so commendable and now you have a lovely foal too to show for all your hard work. Congratulations. |
| Member: tpmiller |
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2009 - 1:34 pm: Quick update. Patty still shakes her head at times, vets belive either habit or a sign nerve regeneration continues slowly.Gamer is now two, takes after her mom. She will start at a low profile no pressure track with a trainer who's started all of the stallion's get that were raced. Out of this I met a young lady who trained Patty as a two year old prepping for the track. Dawn Engle has ridden Patty's younger half sister in endurance competition for over a year and a half, and done exceedingly well. I'll never forget that young colt, but I have been truly blessed. |
| Member: zarr |
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2009 - 5:07 pm: Wonderful on going story thank you for update.We have so many here and some stay forever in one's mind and you wonder how are they doing?? So glad it has worked out.Hint pics would be good sometime
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| Member: paardex |
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2009 - 5:13 pm: Thanks for the update! It is so nice to hear how she is doing after her ordeal!Jos |
| Member: paul303 |
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 12:11 am: Wow! So great to hear more on this story! Is a picture possible? |
| Member: canter |
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 7:14 am: So glad Patty continues to do well!Thanks so much for continuing to keep us updated on this remarkable story. PS Did the children's book ever get published? Have a 7 yo daughter who would really enjoy it, if it did. |
| Member: mrose |
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 7:11 pm: It's so good to get an update! We haven't had any bad storms for awhile, but when we were having them late last summer I thought of your horses. What a special mare you have!Do you breed for racing? I'm personally "into" Egyptians, but you've got some terrific blood lines! If you aren't racing, you could be. |
| Member: tpmiller |
Posted on Monday, Nov 9, 2009 - 11:42 am:  The sire is in the background, at age 23. Patty birthed a feisty colt 10 days ago. I only realized she was pregnant a couple of months ago. None of this was planned. A gift that brings tears to my eyes. |
| Member: tpmiller |
Posted on Monday, Nov 9, 2009 - 12:09 pm: Sara- R-Kon+/ raced 5 years, retired sound. Very good career. Quite a few of his progeny raced, all with the same trainer. He's a Kontiki grandson, also has Kontiki on dam side.Patty raced on both coasts. Her sole Grandsire is Wiking, both sides, she carrys more Wiking genes than any horse alive. Gamer will go to the same trainer next year. Quite a few are in second careers doing well in endurance. |
| Member: vickiann |
Posted on Monday, Nov 9, 2009 - 12:46 pm: Congratulations, Timothy!What a lovely surprise. |
| Member: ajudson1 |
Posted on Monday, Nov 9, 2009 - 12:52 pm: WOW!! I had to reread the thread to refresh my aging memory...and again, WOW!! A gift indeed!
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| Member: mrose |
Posted on Monday, Nov 9, 2009 - 1:34 pm: I am so happy for you! An amazing gift indeed!! Thank you so much for posting the update. It's a much needed uplift.
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| Member: canter |
Posted on Monday, Nov 9, 2009 - 3:34 pm: Wonderful news! Thanks so much for letting us all know. |
| Member: zarr |
Posted on Monday, Nov 9, 2009 - 5:10 pm: The magic and wonder of it all ! Thank you for sharing all of this with us. Still need more pics Please
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| Moderator: DrO |
Posted on Tuesday, Nov 10, 2009 - 6:52 am: Congratulations Tim, have you thought of a name yet?DrO |
| Member: frances |
Posted on Tuesday, Nov 10, 2009 - 3:18 pm: Lovely! |
| Member: lilo |
Posted on Tuesday, Nov 10, 2009 - 7:29 pm: Congratulations! What good news! Lilo |
| Member: mientjie |
Posted on Friday, Nov 13, 2009 - 1:06 pm: What wonderful news!!!! Congrats!!! |
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