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Discussion on Clydesdale cross with WLD
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Member:
mientjie
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Posted on Monday, Feb 12, 2007 - 10:12 am:
We moved my mare to a new stable yard last week. The place we were at kept my mare isolated just because she's a Clydesdale cross!!!
Today I found out she has WLD. Does this go away with treatment or will it always be there? The farrier who used to do her feet did such a bad job that her hooves are now misshaped. Could this lead to the WLD? Fortunatley her hooves will come right with correct trimming.
Do the horses have pain from WLD?
Sorry for all the questions I am just VERY upset about all this.
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boomer
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Posted on Monday, Feb 12, 2007 - 2:34 pm:
Um, what kind of barn are you at? I would never tolerate that kind of behavior in any aspect of my life. I hope they don't start treating you differently because you have a "Clydesdale cross"..
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freshman
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Posted on Monday, Feb 12, 2007 - 11:01 pm:
I hope that you are having a better experience at the new barn. I don't understand why your mare would have been isolated due to her breed..that makes no sense at all. What were the specific concerns stated by the management?
White line disease can be eliminated in most cases aggressive trimming and good farrier work, along with good management that keeps the hoof clean and dry. Your vet does need to be involved in this to confirm your farrier's diagnosis and to make sure that there are not other issues going on with the foot. She can radiograph the feet to determine the extent of hoofwall/laminae separation and perform a hoofwall resecection if necessary.
I know others will chime in with good info, and there are articles available about WLD on this site, surely. Best of luck!!
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mientjie
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Posted on Monday, Feb 12, 2007 - 11:12 pm:
The new barn is much better. They really like my mare. The owner of the barn is is an equine podiatrist and is helping as with the treatment.
Kristin, they said at the previous barn Clydesdales are useless and doesn't need to be with other horses!!! They also gave her mouldy grass while the other horses got fresh, green grass.  I was so upset but couldn't say or do anything before we had found a new barn.
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mrose
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Posted on Tuesday, Feb 13, 2007 - 12:30 am:
Lea-Ann, you are joking?!!
Weren't you paying the same amount of board as everyone else? If so, your horse was legally entitled to the same treatment as the other horses. Hopefully, such a circumstance will never arise again; but if it does, you are not without recourse. It is up to you to see to it that your horse gets fed and treated right. If that means you have to get up extra early and drive to the barn to see that your horse is getting fed right, then that is what you must do. And, at the same time, talk with the owners; if that doesn't do any good, get someone with more authority to talk with the owners/barn managers. If that doesn't do any good, buy and feed your own hay until you find a better place for your horse. Maybe you did all this? At least you found a better place for your mare.
I just find it so hard to believe someone could be like this re: any breed of horse. It makes me so angry just to think about it!
There was just a very good thread on WLD. Maybe you saw it? It's been very educational to read. I've never had to struggle with WLD with our horses (yet) so really learned a lot reading the thread. Do a search for it. If you don't find it, let me know and I'll help you look for it, or someone else will head you in the right direction. Good luck with your mare. I'd enjoy seeing a picture of her. I've met others who have Clydsdale cross horses and who compete in open shows. Their mares have done really well and are lovely animals.
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DrO
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Posted on Tuesday, Feb 13, 2007 - 6:41 am:
Hello Lee-Ann,
The article addresses most of your questions about pain and treatment and prognosis. Though you would think poor care would be related to WLD incidence you can find it in well cared for hooves also.
DrO
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hpyhaulr
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Posted on Tuesday, Feb 13, 2007 - 6:53 am:
Lee Ann,
I notice you are in Africa. Is this horrible treatment of your Amanda a cultural thing?Perhaps the culture does not see the believe in the innate value of the Clydesdale? I would expect that noone but your basic animal lover would take or for that matter want a job at a barn. The thing about true animal lovers is that they are non discriminatory (although I can understand the snake/alligator question mark). We all know here that each horse has universal personality and wants/needs. They have nothing to do with the geography, the culture, the politics or the breed And quite frankly, I would think that anything that large would be way down on the list of critters I want ticked off at me! Are there any authorities you can resource over there to keep watch on this place? In any organizational chart attitude ALWAYS trickles downward, never upward. Someone at the top not only allowed this, they condoned it, and that will not change. They will find someone else to mistreat.Barn cliques are a fact of life, but this is off he charts! I am so glad you kept your eyes and ears open and got her out of there so you can enjoy her as you both deserve.
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mientjie
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Posted on Tuesday, Feb 13, 2007 - 12:13 pm:
Yes we were paying the same board as everyone else as well as her food she needs for her EPSM. The barn owner also picked on me because I'm young, like yelling at me from across the yard not to hose my horse!!!  This was such a bad time for us but we have had much worse last year at yet another yard where we barely got out there alive. I don't think its about culture but these people believe that only thoroughbreds are good enough as they equal money.
On a more positive note Amanda's feet are looking better and the infection is not to deep!
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mientjie
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Posted on Tuesday, Feb 13, 2007 - 12:33 pm:
Here are some photos!!
https://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e16/mientjie/?
(look on page to for photos taken late last year, none from this year yet but will come up soon)
Here Amanda is with me and a friend of my mother from Germany.
Amanda is very happy in her new home will get new photos soon! Sorry the photos are so small.
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caroltd
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Posted on Tuesday, Feb 13, 2007 - 1:51 pm:
Lee-Anne:
She is sooo pretty!! I love draft crosses. I think they are the sweetest horses...we have two percheron cross geldings and they are great guys.
I'm glad you have her in a place were she is cared for and safe.
Carol
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mrose
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Posted on Tuesday, Feb 13, 2007 - 2:56 pm:
Oh, I remember some photos you posted on another thread. She is a lovely mare. Read up on the WLD and learn what you can. It sounded to me like you'll be able to cure her without too much problem, especially if you've caught it before it gets severe.
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ilona
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Posted on Wednesday, Feb 14, 2007 - 11:06 am:
Hi Lee-Anne,
I am SO ANGRY on your behalf....ignorance and prejudice drive me bonkers. Amanda is such a beautiful horse. As Sara said there was very recently a great thread on WLD...if you put WLD in the search section of this site it will come up. Don't be alarmed as it references quite a severe case of WLD.
Did you ever manage to cool Amanda down through the heat of the summer?
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mientjie
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Posted on Wednesday, Feb 14, 2007 - 1:38 pm:
Thanks everyone. I'll go find that thread on WLD. Amanda is wonderful. She is looking a lot more relaxed now and she is starting to get dapples again!
Ilona, I could barely keep her cool and the temperature is still 33 degrees celsius on average. I can;t wait for it to get cooler.
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leec
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Posted on Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 - 11:48 pm:
Hi Lea-Anne,
I have a thread that I started on Aug 27, 2006 that I keep updating about my mare and her case of WLD. It may be the one a few people have referred to - there are pictures. It's under Diseases of the Hoof/White Line Disease or Onchyomycosis/Questions re: Most likely WLD... My advice is to do all you can to make sure you really do have it under control - even if it means getting another opinion from a different vet and farrier. It's hard to know what's really going on inside those hooves... I wish your mare a quick and sound recovery.
Lee C
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mientjie
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Posted on Wednesday, Dec 12, 2007 - 12:36 pm:
Update on Amanda's hooves: We left that horrid yard shortly after my 1st post and have moved again twice this year. The last move was 2 weeks ago and we have never been so happy at ANY stables. The previous place was a mess. Amanda's stable had holes in the roof and she barely had an sawdust ( 2 cups full- literally!) and had to stand in her own poo and urine!!!! Thus the WLD returned again and the stable owner said it nothing! Luckly it has improved a lot in the past 2 weeks and is nearly gone. She now has a THICK clean bed of shavings every day!
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Moderator:
DrO
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Posted on Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 - 7:43 am:
Congrats on the improved hooves and better conditions Lea-Anne.
DrO
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