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Discussion on Allergy?
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kathleen
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Posted on Friday, Mar 2, 2007 - 7:00 pm:
Hi all,
Has anyone seen this much swelling in the eyelid of a horse? Took her to the vet today and he checked her out and found no injury, no damage to the eye, just a very swollen eyelid. Thinks it may be a reaction to something, like a bite or sting of some kind or ????? Dr O, what do you think?
Kathleen
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vickiann
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Posted on Friday, Mar 2, 2007 - 8:23 pm:
WOW -- that is truly amazing. I've had various eye problems with my horses, but nothing that looked like that. The most amazing thing is that the horse does not seem to be squinting or in a great deal of pain. Hope this will soon subside, and hope to hear from you about any further information or outcome. Good luck!
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canter
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Posted on Friday, Mar 2, 2007 - 9:39 pm:
Yikes, Kathleen. That looks horrible. I hope Vicki is right in that your horse is not uncomfortable. If the vet thinks it's an allergy, did he give you something to bring the swelling down?
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mrose
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Posted on Friday, Mar 2, 2007 - 10:18 pm:
Ouch, poor thing! I've seen upper lids swollen shut and way out of shape from a bite or sting, but never the lower lid. Did the vet say you should irrigate it or anything? It just seems like the inner lid tissue is used to being moist so I was wondering. Poor mare!
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freshman
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Posted on Saturday, Mar 3, 2007 - 12:48 am:
Yikes, that looks bad. I hope that it isn't as serious as its appearance suggests. Did this come up suddenly or has it been growing over a period of time? How were you instructed to treat this thing?
Doesn't look like any allergy or insect bite that I've ever seen. Perhaps it is something that a vet would recognize right away, so hopefully Dr. O can chime in soon. Meanwhile, do you have a fly mask that you could use to keep any flies and debris out of it?
Hope it is getting better!
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DrO
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Posted on Saturday, Mar 3, 2007 - 7:22 am:
Kathleen that is swelling of the conjunctiva but it looks more like the bulbar conjunctivia than that on the inside of the lid from the picture. Trauma does not always leave a mark Kathleen and certainly that is the most likely cause.
DrO
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kathleen
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Posted on Saturday, Mar 3, 2007 - 8:19 am:
Hi all,
I did take Mona to the vet yesterday morning as soon as I found her this way. There was nothing there the night before. The vet sedated her and checked it out inside and out and found no foreign object and said he thinks it is an allergic reaction and gave gave her Pred and gentamycin DrOps and I am to continue with them at home. Also told me to keep putting a warm moist towel on it to keep it a moist as possible and if it is not better today, the I have to take her back to have a couple of sutures put in the eyelids to hold it in and keep it clean and moist (I'm guessing that is the purpose of sewing it up). DrO, is there anything you would do differently? I think you are right about being the bulbar conjunctiva. She seemed to be in pain yesterday, vet gave her Banamine and Furosamine (diuretic). My husband just finished feeding and he said that her eye looks the same. If it does not improve by mid morning, I will call the vet back and go from there.
Sara, you are right, it does dry out, thus the moist towel as often as possible to keep it moist and clean. (BTW she doesn't like that part of it and is very willing to let me know it!!)
Kristin, I think that a fly mask would rub on it because it sticks out so far, but thanks for the suggestion. If the swelling goes down I might do that. I do have a Guardian mask that might do the job.
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kathleen
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Posted on Saturday, Mar 3, 2007 - 3:53 pm:
Another vet just examined Mona (our vet is out of town for the weekend - he told us to go to this vet if she did not get better). This vet is not sure it is allergy. He thinks most likely trauma and is not ruling out something still in there, so didn't suture eyelids together. He flushed tear duct, seemed clogged but finally opened up. She is to have Banamine 1xday, Pred/Gent DrOps 2x day alternating with Flurbiprofen/Sodium Chloride DrOps 2x day, a fly mask with padded protection, and stall rest. We are now doing all of the above and if she is not better by Monday she has to go back to the vet for another checkup.
Kathleen
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DrO
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Posted on Saturday, Mar 3, 2007 - 6:16 pm:
That all seems reasonable. I would not have considered suturing the lids together unless their is remarkable damage to the cornea, something that you have not expressed nor evident in the photo. I would have recommended more frequent use of the pred/gent DrOps, up to 5 times daily but the vet may have had a reason?
DrO
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Member:
kathleen
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Posted on Saturday, Mar 3, 2007 - 9:46 pm:
Not sure why just 2x day. He was going to give her an injection of dex, but she is still sore on her front feet and my regular vet said she may have some minor founder going on, so this vet decided not to give the dex injection.
We just put some DrOps in her eye at 8:30pm and we can see more of the eye than we could see earlier, so maybe the inflammation is starting to go down. She doesn't seem to be in as much pain as before, that might just be the Banamine. I'll take a picture again tomorrow to compare to the first one.
Kathleen
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Member:
kathleen
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Posted on Sunday, Mar 4, 2007 - 5:44 pm:
Mona's eye is getting better. Here are the latest pics taken at 4:00PM today:
Kathleen
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mrose
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Posted on Sunday, Mar 4, 2007 - 8:00 pm:
It does look like it's starting to go down. Keep up the good work.
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Member:
hwood
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Posted on Sunday, Mar 4, 2007 - 10:08 pm:
What a relief, Kathleen. I am sure that I would have been panicked if any of my horses had looked like Mona did in the first photo.
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DrO
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Posted on Monday, Mar 5, 2007 - 7:17 am:
With the decrease in swelling it becomes much easier to examine both the swollen structure and the surrounding areas. The cornea itself continues to look clear. In the bottom photo there does seem to be a bit of bruising and tearing of the tissues at 7 o'clock with respect to the eye.
DrO
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kathleen
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Posted on Monday, Mar 5, 2007 - 11:15 am:
Holly,
I didn't panic, but I didn't waste any time getting on the phone to the vet either. It is 75% better today than when we started.
These pics are blurry, she was on the move today. She doesn't do stall rest very well.
Kathleen
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Member:
pbauer
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Posted on Tuesday, Mar 6, 2007 - 1:33 pm:
Dear Kathleen,
I'm praying for your baby...
My Best,
Tonya
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Member:
ilona
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Posted on Wednesday, Mar 7, 2007 - 9:58 am:
Kathleen,
I'm known to be squeamish and would have passed out if saw that at am feed time. Thanx for the photos, you are contributing to my desensitizing program .
Its good to see her progress.
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kathleen
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Posted on Friday, Mar 9, 2007 - 6:58 pm:
Update:
Mona's eye is getting better each day. The vet saw her again on Monday and was concerned with an area that was not pinkish, but rather gray. We are now using ointment to keep the eye moister and now she can close her eye to keep it moist. Vet wants to recheck her in a couple of weeks, he doesn't think we are out of the woods yet, but close. We are keeping the Guardian Fly Mask on her 24/7 and it works great.
Kathleen
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Member:
zarr
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Posted on Friday, Mar 9, 2007 - 7:33 pm:
When I first got back into horses an eye injury scared me to death. So glad Mona is making rapid improvement! Cindy
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Moderator:
DrO
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Posted on Saturday, Mar 10, 2007 - 7:40 am:
It is taking its time but as long as it is headed in the right direction.
DrO
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Member:
kathleen
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Posted on Saturday, Mar 10, 2007 - 8:48 am:
DrO,
The vet and you seem to be not as impressed with it's progress as I am. I was thrilled with the progress, but I don't know what I am looking at really. I'm doing everything as instructed. Treatment was gent/pred 2x day alternating with sodium chloride/ibupropen DrOps 2xday and banamine 1xday. I know you mentioned you would have given pred more often. Do you think that the vet was reluctant to give her more due to the fact that she may be foundering slightly right now? He was planning on giving her IV steroid until I told him that she may be foundering and he said he would not then give the steroid. He removed the pred because her eye picked up stain the last time he saw her last Monday. It was minor and he thought it was caused by the dry area rubbing on her eye. Right now she is on triple antibiotic ointment, gent DrOps, ibupropen DrOps 2x day and 1/2 dose banamine 1xday. And she is still wearing he Guardian Fly Mask. Is there anything else that you know of that I could be doing?
Kathleen
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Moderator:
DrO
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Posted on Monday, Mar 12, 2007 - 7:50 am:
As long as it is improving I really don't have much else advice other than that already given Kathleen.
DrO
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Member:
kathleen
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Posted on Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 - 1:41 pm:
Update. It looks like her eye has healed. Will wait to get confirmation from vet. Here are some pics taken today.
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Member:
zarr
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Posted on Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 - 12:30 am:
Beauty in this case is definitely in the ... eye ...!! Nice job Cindy
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Moderator:
DrO
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Posted on Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 - 6:32 am:
Thanks for the update Kathleen.
DrO
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