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  Discussion on ChonDrOprotec/adequan stifle sore??
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Member:
rusty

Posted on Friday, Mar 9, 2007 - 5:34 pm:

Dr. O..my vet prescribed ChonDrOprotec injections 1st was yesterday (every 4 days for total 6 inj.) due to stifle soreness and he said it was a generic Adequan. Obviously, from what I am reading here that is incorrect. So, now I am thinking I have spent $$ for a product that may not be of benefit to my horse and am concerned. Today he appears to limp some, before he did not, but he was palpated & examined yesterday. I did not ride today, I free lounged at a walk for about 30 minutes and could see a hesitation in his right rear. Before I had noticed his neck & head carriage to be off, usually at a trot/gait neck slight bend to the left head tilted nose out to the right, intermittent lifting like pivoting out some the right rear when I picked up the left front, intermittent giving of the right rear while gaiting...I took him to a MFT clinic for evaluation & was told he needed further vet exam.to see what was up with him. The vet was out the week before the clinic & told me to take him there & if they looked him over with no results than it would be back in his court. Rusty has been examined by the same vet three times in three weeks. After the clinic I was told his back was sore & my saddle did not fit & he was sore from the mandible to the stifle on the right with atrophy behind the right wither. Vet said my saddle rocked forward to back, but I can not reproduce the rock & he tells me I am not strong enough. He wanted me to ride bareback & eval with & without bit..no change. & Now this week I am told it's his stifle. "sensitive in the caudal thigh & tuber coxae points associated with his stifle R>L. Sensitive on palpation +right on muscle testing of right stifle" Vet decided this after we talked about what I was seeing & further evaluation. Now injections, double dose on joint supplements (four flex with ha) flat work no circles for 30 days. Any suggestions, should I think about Adequan or continue on this path...then there's my saddle. I have three tried the one vet said would be best & that was a disaster (Rusty has never worked well in that saddle). We were going down an incline & I think he was pinched & bucked out of no where...very atypical for him. Luckily I stayed on. He has never reacted like that with my Tucker saddle and that's the one vet says rocks front to back..I am questioning his evaluation of the saddle fit now. I have someone who is going to look at saddle fit next Saturday, but I just want to make sure I am on the right track here. Sorry to ramble on...
Moderator:
DrO

Posted on Saturday, Mar 10, 2007 - 8:02 am:

Better choice of locations too Anitia, Thanks for helping to keep us straight.

You have read the info about ChonDrOprotec but have you seen the new articles on Adequan, hyaluronate, and glucosamine / chondriotin sulfate? They just got put up late this week and we have not announced it yet waiting for a major upgrade on the arthritis article itself.

The big question still seems to be what is wrong Anita and until then all recommendations are speculative. I too have doubts about a saddle that appears well fitting to you is the source of the trouble. I would get a referral to someplace that does lameness exams whose goal is to accurately define the location and then the cause of lameness.
DrO
Member:
rusty

Posted on Saturday, Mar 10, 2007 - 7:34 pm:

Dr. O. Sorry about the post...I now know better.
I will check the new articles out.
My vet has pin pointed the stifle..I think initially I did not provide enough information regarding my observations & I did not connect the dots...my vet did after I told him everything I had noticed. My not knowing exactly what information was important and many signs have been very intermittent..he did not have the whole picture until this last visit. I think I will see what results we get at this point, unless there is a change.
Although, the saddle issue is another thing. I have someone who will be doing a saddle evaluation next week.
Moderator:
DrO

Posted on Saturday, Mar 10, 2007 - 8:48 pm:

Anitia, do you know how he pinpointed the stifle? For more on this subject and how lameness is localized see, Diseases of Horses » Lameness » Localizing Lameness in the Horse.
DrO
Member:
rusty

Posted on Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 - 12:54 pm:

Hi Dr. O
My vet did a lameness exam...held up right rear, had me trot away & back several times, did pressure point exam & muscle testing. He noticed he traveled wide on the right rear & is dumping on the front end.
What are your thoughts?
Anita
Moderator:
DrO

Posted on Monday, Mar 12, 2007 - 6:36 am:

I am sorry Anita but I don't know what this means? Was your horse lame during the exam and which leg was it and once a lame leg was found was an attempt made to localize the lameness in the leg?
DrO
Member:
rusty

Posted on Monday, Mar 12, 2007 - 11:59 am:

Vet never actually said he was lame. After his exam he concluded the quote in my first post to be the problem area. When I asked what his observation were that is when he said Rusty traveled wide on the right rear (moving it to the side not under) & dumps his weight on the front end to compensate along with the neck & nose carriage. So I can not be more specific than that. This vet does acupuncture, chiropractic, dentistry, and large animal vet & seems good at what he does.
Moderator:
DrO

Posted on Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 - 8:51 am:

The traveling wide may be conformational AK and I really don't know what to make of the dumping comment. If you think your horse is lame and he does not I would recommend you get a referral to a equine hospital that does good lameness work.
DrO
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