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Member:
Aannk

Posted on Friday, Apr 25, 2003 - 3:59 pm:

Dr. O.,
My gelding tore a large (about 1 inch diameter and about 3/4 inch deep) chunk out of his upper lip halfway between his nostril and the corner of his mouth a week ago. In reading your article, I see I should not have been using hyDrOgen peroxide on it every day (oops!). It does not seem to be healing. The vet did not stitch it because he said the stiches would pull out (which I agree with). I have been hosing it, peroxiding (which I will stop), bactine, and neosporin. It doesn't seem to hurt, but it is not really looking any less deep. I found two products that it seems may help in this. I found them in an old Practical Horseman. I recorded the information on my voice recorder, so this may not be spelled right.
The one is called Collamead, the other Facilitator. They are both supposed to support collagen matrix formation to aid in healing large wounds. The Facilitator is supposed to be a hyDrOxylated amylopectin. I could not find anything on the web with both those words.
Have you ever heard of either of these? If so, would you recommend them?
I will probably just keep doing what I'm doing, but if I can get something that will help him heal, I will do so, and keep some around for the next time he rips himself on a nail.
Alicia
Member:
Sparky

Posted on Friday, Apr 25, 2003 - 6:05 pm:

Alica - I have also heard of a natural spray from Wheat grass? it is supposed to promote healing very quickly - I will try and find the exact information
Member:
Sparky

Posted on Friday, Apr 25, 2003 - 6:17 pm:

here is the information:| if you do a search in the general web for wheat grass spray you should come to this site: I have never used it but it sounds interesting? Opinion Dr. O?
Robert McDowell's Herbal Treatments
4th September 2002


FAST SCAR-LESS HEALING FOR HORSES AND DOGS



The Grass Juice Factor:

There is this Medical Doctor here in Australia who became interested in the properties of wheat grass sprouts over the past 7 or 8 years. As most of you know there are a variety of products from these sprouts being marketed in health food stores and elsewhere, and 20 years ago some of us were growing them for ourselves in little trays and cutting the tops off with scissors to add to our salads.

Interestingly enough, wheat grass tested as being a high source of ORMUS or high spin state rare earth elements along with the four or five major Indian and European herbs accredited with special healing powers in cancer treatments. Maritime Pine Bark being the highest except for the white gold powder being manufactured by alchemists through the ages.

Chris Reynolds calls this unknown healing power the "Grass Juice Factor" and it apparently is concentrated in the sprouts at the time the young wheat grass sprout splits to begin forming the seed head.

Anyway, Chris has been developing topical products for use in skin healing in the same way I have been adding Maritime Pine antioxidant to my own skin healing creams with great results.

He has come out with a totally new product a Skin Recovery Spray, which can be found on his website at; www.wheatgrassactive.com

Phenomenal Results with Wheat Grass Skin Recovery Spray Trials

As you all know, a horse in a paddock will go to enormous lengths to puncture, rip, graze or tear itself open on anything it can find to do this on. It will also strike and bite at its neighbors and endeavor to hang itself up the fences whenever it can.

Horse owners are therefore constantly coming upon the wounds inflicted by this behavior and having to support their healing.

I have been trialing his new liquid spray preparation with the help of some of my patients and clients on a variety of open wounds over the past month and have had phenomenal results on the following cases;

Long term suppurating cancer sore in a serious human breast cancer case which was causing burning and discomfort which prevented the patient from sleeping at night. External burning sensation almost gone in two days, wound showing positive healing signs in a week and my patient is sleeping better and responding well to my other herbal treatments.
A weeping sore on the nose of a horse with cancer in the facial bones showed a very similar result to my breast cancer lady. The sore which was not painful, but showing no signs of healing whatsoever, immediately began to heal.
Fly bitten ears on a dog which weren't healing and which required the ears to be bound to the dogs head to prevent it scratching. Bandages off, itching stopped and healing started within the the week.
Hobble sores in pacers healing well.
Greyhound breeder with 120 odd pups and young dogs housed in groups and being constantly faced with bites and scratches is trialing the spray as his first aid and only response to all wounds. He simply walks around with his spray bottle at meal times and sprays the liquid on every wound he sees. He is delighted and it is simpler and quicker in its effect than anything he has ever used before.

We have a serious and simple treatment here folks with the 200ml bottle selling for $24.95. It should be in everybody's tack room, first aid kit and float along with your bottle of Rescue Remedy, Herbal Bute Replacement and Hoof Oil.

I will be recommending it particularly to my show Dog clients and my horse owners in the Western and English Show Circuit as it does offer a very simple and positive first aid response to all wounds.

Furthermore if the wheat grass spray is continued through the healing process and used in conjunction with my Comfrey based Healing Creams, it offers the very best chance of scar less healing.
Member:
Sunny66

Posted on Friday, Apr 25, 2003 - 6:25 pm:

I've got another one for you...Healing-tree products.

Tea-Pro Equine Wound Healing Spray

A rapid-acting, easily applied, non-messy/non-greasy healing spray solution utilizing nature’s best remedies, including Tea Tree Oil, Comfrey, Myrrh, Aloe Vera, and Goldenseal.

T-Pro Wound Spray does just what its name states: it offers first aid healing in the treatment of open wounds, lacerations, cuts, sores in the mouth, puncture wounds, abscesses and other wounds involving the skin and underlying dermal tissue layers.

Because it is in liquid form, Tea-Pro Equine Wound Healing Spray rapidly covers the wound area without thickly coating the wound like an ointment does. The thick coating of a wound area with ointments or salves can actually retard the healing process by essentially ‘blocking’ rapid cell growth as the body tries to heal the wound. Our solution does not ‘occupy the space, so to speak, like an ointment does where new tissue growth should be occurring. Tea-Pro Equine Wound Healing Spray has the added advantage of promoting a concise, well-patterned layered granulation bed for more rapid healing.

I'm using this on my guy for his two stitches and it works great so far.

https://www.healing-tree.com/catalog/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=1&mscssid=5HJE533TQL6F9P4 JVFC328QX5CUJ9DC7
Moderator:
DrO

Posted on Saturday, Apr 26, 2003 - 8:19 am:

Hello All,
I know you all are trying to help but I really do not know of any research on any of the claims of these products and therefore do not recommend their use. Alicia is there a hanging flap or does the hole enter the oral cavity, or extend to the edge of the lip? These may effect the best treatment.

But in any case. One week is too short a time to notice any significant healing from a full skin thickness wound, so patience is the key. Folowing the instructions on wound careshould keep you in the middle of the road.
DrO
Member:
Aannk

Posted on Monday, Apr 28, 2003 - 12:00 pm:

Dr. O.,
I just wondered if you had heard of the stuff, if you haven't, that is enough for me! By the way, after I stopped the peroxide, the wound started to heal much more quickly. It is visibly less deep now, after about 4 days of not putting that on it. It did not go all the way through, the hanging flaps have fallen off, and it does extend to the edge of the lip. I will contine to hose it and put bactine and neosporin on it. Thanks everyone else for the suggestions!!!
Alicia
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