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Discussion on WLD - various treatments
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New Member:
Skeller
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Posted on Friday, Apr 30, 2004 - 4:18 pm:
Dr. O, I was reading the articles on this site and the Farrier's Resource Center about treatments for White Line Disease.
Two different articles at the “Farrier” site
https://www.horseshoes.com/advice/whitelinedisease/whitelinediseaseindex.htm
speak about the use of Glutaraldehyde (which I was able to find a source for) and sodium oxychlorosene (which I’m still looking for) as being more effective than formaldehyde products. I understand you might have not used these products, but was wondering what your thoughts are on them.
Even though it wasn’t specifically stated, I got the impression from the articles at the “Farrier” site that the incidence of WLD is increasing. Is that so?
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DrO
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Posted on Saturday, May 1, 2004 - 8:29 am:
HEllo Sandra,
I have to admit I have found formaldehyde so effective, cheap, and easy to get I have not continued to look for other treatments. While it strikes me as unlikely that these other treatments are more effective they would be less dangerous to work with which would be a real plus, if they are as effective.
DrO
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Member:
Skeller
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Posted on Monday, May 3, 2004 - 9:48 pm:
Thanks for the info Dr.O.
WLD has been pretty scarce (or undiagnosed) in my area (eastern US). But we've recently seen several horses with this problem severe enough that their affected hooves were resectioned. I appreciate the info on this site.
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New Member:
Tplaster
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Posted on Thursday, Apr 21, 2005 - 9:49 pm:
How do you use the formaldehyde in the treatment? I have a mare that I just bought and learned she has a very bad case of white line. X-rays were taken, no bone rotation, but most of her toe was removed. She has enough hoof for 2 nails on each side and about an inch from the hair line. She is also very lame. I have to bute her every day. ( I don't like doing this) I have also read in sheep they also give antibiotic shots along with the soaks and this really seems to help. What do you advise?
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Member:
Skeller
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Posted on Thursday, Apr 21, 2005 - 10:40 pm:
Patricia, your description (toe removed and xrays)sounds like the mare was a recent laminitis/founder case. Since she is very lame on bute, make sure this has not cropped up again. You've probably already addressed this but because I'm currently going through my first experience with laminitis, I get concerned easily.
The other reason I'm mentioning it is that the horse is new so I'm guessing you don't know much of her history. And my understanding is that white line disease can be possible complication to a horse with chronic laminitis simply because this area is weakened and invasion of the white line is an opportunity waiting to happen.
Dr O will need to answer your question about formaldehyde but I believe it's used when the white line does not include the sensitive tissue. If there's sensitive tissue (and if she's very lame my guess there is) then provodine iodine is used.
I see you are a new member. Be sure to take some time to read the older/newer posts as they have a wealth of info. And remember that Dr. O really barks more than he bites! So keep asking questions! 
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DrO
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Posted on Friday, Apr 22, 2005 - 6:34 am:
Barks(?) I am the very essence of sweetness! Welcome Patricia, the formaldehyde is applied topically for more information see the article associated with this discussion White Line Disease or Onchyomycosis, and the article Equine Medications and Nutriceuticals » Antibiotics and Antimicrobials » Formaldehyde and Formalin Use. To access the white line article you select it off the navigation bar at the top of this page.
Since this is a fungal infection of horny tissue, antibiotics designed to kill bacteria will not be effective and systemic antifungals will not reach the organism because blood does not circulate there.
DrO
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New Member:
Tplaster
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Posted on Saturday, Apr 23, 2005 - 10:08 am:
Dr O
I just recently asked you about my mare with very bad hoof wall separation. She has had her toe wall removed about week and a half ago. My vet is having me put EQUI-PHAR caustic power, paste form (just add water) to the white line area closest to the resection. He has also taken x-rays two weeks ago and states no rotation, no other problems. My blacksmith tells me to soak in cooper sulfate and white vinegar, every day for several weeks. (tried this, mare HATES the bucket, this is not working) So I got the powder from my vet he had suggested. First question, what's your opinion of treatment? Second question, what are your thoughts on filling in the foot, if it is thought the fungus is gone? And is there a test to make sure its gone? Third question, my mare is still very lame, is this normal, and how long should I expect this lameness? Forth question, do you think that the coffin bone might have an infection, since I believe this condition is long going? Would this explain why she is still so lame? Would x-rays show infection in the bone? Also, when my blacksmith removed the hoof wall, he said he hadn't seen anything like that before, that is the hoof was very dry, in the cavity area removed, he said it looked old. Dr O there wasn't any white line there under the hoof wall, just a void, over the toe area. I'm concerned about making sure I'm doing the right thing, I don't want my actions to now cause the coffin bone to rotate.}
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DrO
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Posted on Sunday, Apr 24, 2005 - 11:47 am:
1) I have not used these treatment so am uncertain as to efficacy. I suspect if all the infection is removed and the paste remains in contact that it should work.
2) Fine if you are sure.
3) No, you must monitor for recurrence.
4) It depends on the cause of the lameness. I have had to remove enough wall from some horses that they were walking on their soles so very tenderfooted.
5) There is no way for me to know. WLD itself is a very unlikely cause.
6) Again there is no way for me to answer this question.
Patricia your worries suggest you do not have confidence in the diagnosis, perhaps you should seek a second opinion, particularly if the lameness remains unexplained.
DrO
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Member:
Luke1
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Posted on Thursday, Sep 22, 2005 - 7:39 pm:
amen
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New Member:
jeans
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Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 10:18 pm:
Hello Dr O-some! and everyone else!
An old-time friend of mine used BLEACH as a home-remedy for thrush. (She just poured a tiny bit into the non-sensitive areas of the hoof and held it up for a minute or so to let it gravity-soak.) Anyone else heard of this and anyone ever use it for White Line Disease?
Thanks, all!
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Member:
mrose
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Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 11:44 pm:
Bleach is an old, long standing remedy for thrush. I knew people that used it when I was a teenager...and trust me, that was a long time ago! I don't know about for WLD.
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srobert
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Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 5:57 am:
Bleach doesn't really work because it quickly loses its disinfecting properties when exposed to air. Betadine is better if you can't get formaldehyde (which is best). I rotated using a variety of products when I battled White LIne Disease - betadine, Sav-A-Hoof, and White Lightning to name a few. But the most important thing is to get air to the area and keep it dry, dry, dry. We used wood pellet bedding that helped keep the stall really dry. I also put tube sox on him under davis boots whenever we went for a walk. Looked like he was wearing Nikes, but worked for us! Air and dry conditions are the most important part of the cure.
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New Member:
jeans
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Posted on Friday, Jun 1, 2007 - 2:56 pm:
Thanks for the feedback!
(and a beautiful pic, Sara-I just love the babies)!
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