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mrose
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Posted on Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 - 12:28 am:
While at the Denver show I received a call from Lonnie saying there was a problem at home. My wonderful older mare, Beaulima (aka Miss Piggy) was lying down when he went out to feed and he couldn't get her up. She was lying on her left side and couldn't seem to get her rear legs underneath herself to push up. As it was the start of hunting season, he was unable to reach a vet. He did reach our neighbor and farrier, who came over and gave Beau a shot of Banamine and with the help of Lonnie and Troy, the mare was able to rise a little while after getting the shot. However, she seemed weak and shakey in her back legs. Troy also happens to be friends with the young vet that just started working with our vet and was able to reach him on his cell phone. Dr. Allred examined Beau, but other than an elevated heart rate (72) could find nothing really wrong with her. He did draw blood, and we should have the report tomorrow sometime.
I DrOpped everything at the show and DrOve home ASAP as this is my favorite mare, raised and trained by me; one that has carried me many, many miles plus given us several beautiful foals. I DrOve most of the night and got home about 9a.m. today.
By the time I got home, she appeared pretty normal, except she doesn't want to move much. She is eating and drinking, urinating, pooping, o.k., has no fever and all vitals seem fine, no heat or tenderness in any of her feet, eyes are bright, etc. Her upper right rear leg, however, is very swollen, especially on the upper inside from the lower gaskin clear up to under her tail. I could also feel a small, hard swelling on her lower right rump. I don't now if this is due to pulling a muscle during her struggle to get up, or a part of some original injury/problem. She was also standing with her rear legs a little canted underneath her belly.
I rubbed her legs with Sore No More and wrapped them, and took her out to see how she moved and to let her nibble a little grass. She was happy to be out, but her right rear leg almost collapsed under her once when she walked. She seemed a little shakey and weak in the legs in general.
I brought her back in and messaged her and rubbed Cool Gel on her upper legs. I forgot to say the vet gave her 10cc (I think he said) of dex, and I gave her 2 gm of bute paste when I got home. Lonnie had given her bute powder in her feed, but she only ate a few mouthfuls of the mix. When I went out to check on her tonight I messaged her legs again, and when doing the upper rear legs, she really seemed to like it and leaned into me to get the full effect. We have an appointment for some x-rays of hocks and stifle joints on Wednesday. Meanwhile, I saw Dr.O has an article on upper leg problems which I'll read tomorrow. I don't think I can keep my eyes open much longer tonight.
Our farrier, Troy, said he thinks Beau was lying in a little bit of depression and just "got stuck" and the pressure of lying there put her leg to sleep so she couldn't get up. No one know how long she laid there, an hour, or all night. I've never heard of a horse not being able to get up unless it was cast or injured. There was no large hole, just a little uneveness in the sand/dirt.
Anyone else ever have a similar experience with their horse? Ideas? Would a mild stroke cause her to not be able to get up? Wouldn't there be other symptoms, or not?
Troy,
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mrose
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Posted on Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 - 12:31 am:
Ooops. the "troy" above shouldn't be there. sorry. Off to shower and bed. My eyes are crossed!
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shirl
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Posted on Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 - 1:15 am:
Sara, I'm so sorry to hear about this. Have no idea what would cause that, hopefully x-rays will tell something.
Loved the photos from the other thread. Beautiful horses and you too.
Hugs,
Shirl
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frances
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Posted on Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 - 6:03 am:
I'm very sorry too Sara. It does remind me of an older mare where I board who, the winter before last, went through a period of quite frequently being unable to rise. She would even urinate and poo while down. As with your mare, Banamine and lots of pushing and encouragement would eventually get her up, but it would take some time, and often the next morning she'd be stuck down again.
She was fairly arthritic and had a bone spavin. Radiographs showed a chip (some chips?) in the joint. The vet didn't want to remove them surgically because of her age, and she continued to have these episodes over I would say a two-month period.
Her owner used magnetic boots on her for a while, and put her (and continues to have her) on a chonDrOitin/glucosamine type supplement ("Super Flex" if I remember rightly). She was also semi-retired, i.e. she was walked under saddle at first just twice a week, and as she was getting a bit lively, this has been upped to three times a week. The rest of the time she's out in a paddock for a few hours a day.
Anyway, the mare hasn't had any repeat episodes since then (Jan - Mar '06), so something is working for her.
This may well be totally irrelevant to your case, but I thought I'd mention it just in case .....
Good luck with her.
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DrO
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Posted on Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 - 6:52 am:
Sara if I understand your post correctly the only abnormal thing you are now seeing after getting the mare to rise and initial treatment is:- a very swollen upper hind leg
- stiffness when walking
- and a slightly abnormal stance with the hind legs parked under the horse.
Is that correct? If so I have some other questions:- Did the vet not see the swollen leg or did that develop after he examined the horse?
- What is your horses body temperature?
- Is the horse weight bearing normally on this leg?
DrO
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paardex
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Posted on Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 - 7:00 am:
Hi Sara, sorry to hear of your problems and I hope Beaulima feels better.
I had a broodmare who couldn't get up and after we helped her experienced a lot of the symptoms you describe[except for the swelling in the inner leg] but she was rather heavy with foal in a [big] box with an even floor and a lot of bedding and to top al that she had an old tendon injury on a hind leg. So we[the vet and I] concluded she must have been lying on the 'bad' leg leaving not enough force to stand up and thus get stiff al over she was very 'wobbly' for a few days and it never occurred again[but as soon as she got heavy we checked her every four or five hours to ascertain she did not need help to stand up don't ask how much hours of sleep that took]
I hope you find out what caused the problems[so good for our mental health to KNOW isn't it?] and keep my fingers crossed for a speedy recovery of 'miss Piggy'[?]
Jos
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scooter
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Posted on Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 - 7:44 am:
Sara hope Beau is better today and it is a minor thing, you should know by now you shouldn't leave the place
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canter
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Posted on Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 - 7:48 am:
Sara, just wanted to chime in with my well wishes for Beau. I'm sorry you had to leave your show early and I hope you find some answers as to what's bothering her.
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hwood
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Posted on Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 - 8:03 am:
Oh, dear, Sara . . . That's what we get for having "kids" . . . if it's not ONE thing, it's another . . . always keeping us on the go whether it's extracurricular activities, illnesses, or fights between siblings ("Ma-om . . . AJ's on MY side of the pasture!!!!").
I think Diane may be correct about you leaving home . . . Do you ever feel manipulated?
Hoping there will be some answers and relief for you and Beau today . . . and that the rest of the show will go excellently for Nellie and the boys.
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dres
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Posted on Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 - 9:20 am:
MANIPULATED? you bet!~ STUCK TO THE BARN yup.. Holly it is always something..
Sara, huge bummer for you to have to return so quickly under such stress.. Like all , i hope the out come is a good one..
On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with spots..
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sunny66
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Posted on Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 - 10:32 am:
Oh Sara, I'm sorry. You have endured so much and give the best care to your horses. I too hope the outcome is good and healthy.
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mrose
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Posted on Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 - 10:51 am:
Dr. O, her body temp is and has been to the best of my knowledge, normal. I know vet took it when he came and it was normal then, but when Lonnie first saw her down it didn't occur to him to take a temp. It's been normal since I've been home.
I think between the vet, Lonnie and the farrier someone would have noticed her leg, but I'm not positive. I am assuming it "blew up" after the initial incident. She is bearing weight normally on all her legs, except for standing somewhat canted under yesterday and her legs appearing kind of weak. Her swelling had gone down some by ten o'clock last night, although her leg was still swollen.
I fed at 7:30 this a.m. and she was bright eyed, head out the door anxious for breakfast. I haven't really checked her out beyond that this morning. I'll be going out soon to clean, do grain and give her bute and will try moving her around a little and check her out more throughly then.
Thanks all for your responses.
LL, I had someone in Denver tell me of an old mare they boarded who couldn't get up by herself if she laid down. Luckily, she seldom laid down, but when she did it took three people to get her up again. She was like this until she died at age 32.
Jos, this is the mare I was going to ride in NM! I've been riding her, though not heavily, all along. Maybe I should have been riding her more consistantly? When I don't ride, she usually gets lounged or turned out though.
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paardex
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Posted on Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 - 6:37 pm:
I think she just doesn't like NM Sara! Imo getting lounged or turned out in between riding should be perfectly allright, you cannot be in two places at one time, though as some members already suggested your horses seem to expect that from you!
Hope she feels better tomorrow and Dr O can shed some light on this mystery.
Jos
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mrose
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Posted on Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 - 9:56 pm:
I turned her out for a few hours this morning and let her graze figuring the moving around would be good for her. The swelling has gone down a little more, though her hock is still pretty swollen and her inner leg is about 1/3 again the size of the other leg. I took off her wraps and cold hosed her legs and messaged her again. Her attitude is back to her normal "I wanted this done yesterday" self.
I had another mare that cut her forehead above her right eye this afternoon (!!! honestly, standing in her &*^#%$_# stall!) I took her in to get sutures and while there the vet said the only thing a little "out of whack" in her blood work was some signs of early renal failure, but he didn't think this had anything to do with her episode on Sunday. So, we'll see if x-rays reveal anything tomorrow.
The other mare? I brought her in and put her in her stall, went and talked to my neighbor who'd driven up, went back to her stall, and there she stood with blood dripping down her face! I can't see blood anywhere in her stall or any place she could have hurt herself. Another glass of wine and I'm driving them all out to the desert so they can run wild and free like PETA wants them too!!
Why are the horses down the street who are behind three strands of old, falling down barb wire, running between broken tractor parts and other junk; the ones who maybe get fed and maybe get their feet trimmed once in a while, all looking healthy with no cuts to be seen?????? Sometimes you'd think I keep ours in fields of broken glass with sheet metal and tin tacked together for stalls.
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dres
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Posted on Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 - 10:14 pm:
OH Sara, i hear you LOUD and clear... we have little Mexico behind us.. with T posts and bob wire.. and MY horse impales himself on a T post that WAS COVERED with a sleeve.. ????
I hope you herd gets it together, you know it happens in three's you are done now.. relax..
On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with spots.
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lilo
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Posted on Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 - 10:47 pm:
Sara - so sorry to hear about your troubles. I am so hoping Beau will be alright - and your other mare also. Your horses are so beautiful, and you are such a caring "mom" to them. Now I know why you had to leave Denver in a hurry.
Best wishes that everything will turn out OK,
Lilo
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zarr
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 12, 2007 - 1:22 am:
Sara, MURPHY'S LAW  Cindy
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vickiann
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 12, 2007 - 6:39 am:
Sara -- Your luck sounds like mine with regard to horses finding ways to hurt themselves. My paint horse will spar over stall doors or around stall walls with a pasture mate and if I let one out while the other is still shut in, there is a good chance of a whacked head. It helps to keep an empty stall between this boy and his spunky friend. I have had him hit his face and gash it open very deeply in this way. And if there is one nail sticking out somewhere in a 20 acre pasture, or sharp bark on a tree -- mine will find it. I even have my husband take the chain saw and smooth areas on tree stumps that get sharp after being exposed to sun so they don't slice themselves open there. Often those folks who have really dangerous conditions can get by for a long time, but then one day they have a bad accident. Good luck! V
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canter
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 12, 2007 - 7:57 am:
Bubbble wrap, bubble wrap, bubble wrap...
If it will make you feel any better Sara, I got my mare ready to ride on Monday night. Walked her aprox 15 feet to the indoor arena, and like always, hand walked her (correctly, with her at my shoulder) for a few minutes before moving her over to the mounting block. As I turned to move the reins over her head and neck, I was facing her and what did I see? A bright blue tack sticking straight out of the top of her nose, perfectly placed right between her nostrils. Now how and where in God's name she picked that up from the time I started walking her to the time I turned to face her, I can not even begin to guess....
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ajudson1
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 12, 2007 - 9:22 am:
I intended to post some encouraging words to you Sara, but I am laughing so hard at Fran's description of the blue tack sticking out of her mares nose!
Maybe she's into body piercing? Does she have tattoos also? 
O.k., ladies, I'll see what I have for extra bubble wrap, and other cushy things to send ya'all. Maybe a case of wine for you Sara?
Hmmm....um, Sara, is it safe to come visit you like we want to? When we make that loop out west like we want to do, we'll be the folks showing up in padded suits, full face bubbles, air tanks, LOL!! (think I'll leave the cute little dog home too)
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ekaufman
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 12, 2007 - 9:39 am:
A friend of mine is a custom horse hauler. He tells a story about riding along with some folks (in a foreign country stereotypically hard on their horses). They were rounding up the broodmares and hazing them into the bed of a pickup-- no rails-- and then driving them back to the ranch. Along the way, there was a clatter and a thud as one of the horses fell off the back of the truck. The driver never even slowed, and when my friend tried to intervene the guy said: we didn't want that one anyhow.
So my point is, those horses that can tiptoe through the depth charges are the ones that made it-- through a combination of luck and temperament. I have seen plenty of gruesome injuries in hellholes (partial amputations, seeping holes, etc.). They are the ones you don't see.... So your accident prone ones are lucky to have you.
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sonoita
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 12, 2007 - 9:49 am:
Sara,
Wanda here. Did you bring the thing you bought at Denver home by chance. Maybe it will help.
Wishes your way. These horses what will we do with them or worse yet what would we do without them.
Happy Trails
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paardex
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 12, 2007 - 10:32 am:
I'm afraid Sara needs something stronger then wine...Calvados maybe? Or a good Rhumpunch, with some ananasjuice and sugar the horses can drink it to and perhaps knock themselves out for a night so they don't get in trouble.
Jos
PS Sitting stressed out waiting for the vet which explains my alcoholic fantasies
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mrose
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 12, 2007 - 10:59 am:
Fran, I started laughing so hard at my mind's picture of your horse with the tack that I spilled coffee on the keyboard! I think she hid that tack in her saddle pad,and when you weren't looking turned and stuck it on her nose just to see the look on her face!
Hi Wanda...I sent it with Nellie who wanted it for the boys. I should maybe have bought two!
Angie, nothing ever seems to happen to my guests or boarders, so I think you all will be safe.
Jos, why are you waiting for the vet? What did I miss?
Beau's appointment is at 11:00 a.m. today. I'll get a copy of her blood labs and let you know what the x-rays show, if anything. She certainly seems normal this morning. I'm begining to think she's "in cahoots" with my vet as I just got the lowest bill I've ever received, $24. I never owe that little!
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zarr
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 12, 2007 - 11:17 am:
Sara, perhaps it is Lonnie that Beau's in cahoots with ?????? Mom leaves and the fastest way to get her back home the horses ! Just a thought. Cindy
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hwood
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 12, 2007 - 11:28 am:
Ditto to Sara's comment, Jos. Why are you waiting for the vet? . . . or . . . are you in an alcoholic stuper dreaming of waiting for the vet? cute, vet?
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mrose
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 12, 2007 - 11:42 am:
Good thinking,Cindy! Hmmmm....you're pretty sharp; I never thought of that.
I just read Alicia's post re: her mare that got cast and the swelling sounds a lot like Beaulima's. I wonder if she somehow got a leg under the pipe panel (a good foot of clearance, though) or wedged up against the barn and couldn't get up and thus strained her leg?
Am waiting for a phone call then out to clean the trailer up from yesterday's vet visit with Kameela, so I can take Beau to her's today.
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paardex
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 12, 2007 - 12:19 pm:
No Holly I was really waiting for the vet he had to confirm if the mares stayed pregnant and has canceled the appointment twice due to horses like Beau for instance who want immediate response? BUT both of them are pregnant Yippee next year[if they do not decide to do something horrible] a little Iowa x Arab and a Quite Easy x Margot who certainly will be [and named] Quite Difficult.
Jos
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canter
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 12, 2007 - 12:55 pm:
Hmmm...the saddle pad...never considered that option for the mysteriously appearing tack. I was (and still am) so befuddled by that minor incident that I'm seriously thinking that a bird, who happened to fly into the arena (but that I didn't notice), picked up the tack from somewhere, pricked itself just as it flew over Sparkles head, DrOpped the tack just right, thus impaling poor Sparkles' nose. It's my theory and I'm sticking to it!!
Hoping for good news after Beaus appointment with the vet!
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zarr
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 12, 2007 - 2:50 pm:
Fran, we had one of those ....... thumbtacs appear on the side of Pest's nose the only explanation and attempt to keep my mind stable was that it was in the hay/ on the ground anywhere but thin air! Without our horses we would ALL be just plain bored! Cindy
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mrose
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 12, 2007 - 3:43 pm:
I don't know about the rest of you, but I could use a little boredom once in a while, Cindy!
Jos, now quit blaming your vet's tardiness on horses like my sweet Beau! Glad your mares are pg and hope you have uneventful pregnancies. I'll be looking forward to pretty foal pictures next year.
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canter
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 12, 2007 - 4:03 pm:
Cindy, your explanation would work except that her head wasn't any where near the ground - I was leading her! So, the whole attempt to keep my sanity rests completely on the bird theory...Can anyone guess how long it will take before I end up in a padded cell???
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mrose
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 12, 2007 - 5:16 pm:
Here are Beau's lab results (Done by CSU):
Glucose 92
Bun 41
Creatinine 2.6
Phosphorus 1.3
Calcium 14.3
Magnesium 2.2
Total Protein 7.5
Albumin 3.3
Globulim 4.2
A/G ratio 0.8
T-Bilirubin 0.9
CK 3973
AST 296
GGT 22
SDH 7
Sodium 141
Potassium 2.8
Chloride 100
Bicarbonate (HC03-) 24.2
Anion Gap 19
Calc. Osmolality 287
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Sample Quality tests
Lipemia 0
Hemolysis 25
Icterus 2
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Neucleated cells 10.1
Band neutrophils
Seg Neutrophils 90% 9.1
Lymphocytes 7% .7
Monocytes 2% .2
Eosinophils 1% .1
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Plasma Protein 8.5
RBC 7.16
HGB 13.0
PCV 37
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MCV 52
MCH
MCHC 35
Reticulocytes
CHr
MCVR
Fibronogen 500
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RDW 15.4
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Platelets 423
MPV 11.4
Hemopathology
Clumped plt.
Few Echinocytes
Many smuged cells. Differential on intact cells only.
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hwood
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 12, 2007 - 5:40 pm:
Jeesh . . . talk about vets' handwriting (in the Lilly thread) . . . Even when the info is typewritten, it's Greek to me.
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DrO
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 12, 2007 - 6:25 pm:
The elevation in CK is likely the prolonged recumbency and as many values are near the top of normal I disagree with your veterinarians assessment that it indicates early renal failure. Most likely there is mild dehydration present. Since your horse checks out as essentially normal could this have been a case of a cast horse that struggled to the point of exhaustion? It is supported by the history and accounts for the examination and lab findings. I have occasionally seen horses get themselves in almost unnoticeable depressions that prevented them from rising.
DrO
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mrose
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 12, 2007 - 6:51 pm:
I think her getting cast is the most likely scenario, and is what the vets and I agree is probably what happened. She was lying in or near her favorite spot for an early morning nap, up against the east side of the barn. She maybe rolled in the sand before getting up and then got stuck in a spot that was too tight for her to get her feet under her, especially with arthritic hocks. I had her hocks and stifles x-rayed and she has almost no space inbetween all the bones in her joints, especially her right hock, which is the leg she would have used to push herself up. Although she is on oral supplements with chonDrOitin, glucosamine, and msm as well as pro-biotics, I had the vet give her an Adaquin injection today, the first in a series of three, in the hopes it will help or hocks a little.
The CK was really high, the norm for CSU's lab is 100 - 470 IU/L. Would it be wise to have another panel done to compare values now that she's been "normal" for a few days? Do all older horses eventually have liver problems? I ask because two other older mares were diagnosed with renal failure as was an old gelding we board. (The mares were diagnosed quite some time ago and have been dead for several years now. The gelding appears to be doing great at almost 29.)
I read one thread from 1999 regarding using bloodwork as an early diagnostic tool for deseases in older horses. At that time you seemed to feel blood work was pretty unreliable and that the best indicator of a healthy horse was the looks and actions of the horse. Do you still feel this way? (This mare is certainly very lively acting and looks good, although she does keep her hair longer in length than she used to when she was young. She has no other signs of cushings, though. She is fed beet pulp and equine senior, a little grass/alfalfa mix hay and allowed to graze in our grass fields. She gets Platinum Performance plus Ortho-chon for supplements, is wormed according to your worming program, and gets her teeth checked regularly.
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zarr
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 12, 2007 - 6:59 pm:
Sara, sounds like best case ending but you may have to go from bubblewrap to rubberbaby buggy bumpers! Glad it seems to be happy resolve! Cindy
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ilona
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 12, 2007 - 8:45 pm:
I've been watching this with interest Sara...I'm so glad it seems to have been somewhat resolved...does this mean I get to meet Beau in about 14 days?
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mrose
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 12, 2007 - 9:40 pm:
Maybe so, Ilona. Vet said if she continues to improve he sees no reason she shouldn't go. In my mind it will depend some on the weather between here and there, and I think I would only ride her lightly. I hope to ride her a little tomorrow and see how she does.
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DrO
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Posted on Thursday, Sep 13, 2007 - 7:09 am:
Though numerically the CK is high it is not that bad clinically and severe disease of the muscle yields numbers 10 times that high. I see no need to repeat it if the horse is getting well and shortly returns to normal.
Laboratory tests results on blood are not unreliable assuming samples are taken properly and the lab does quality work. The question is, "what is the significance of the results in the face of blood taken from a healthy horse?". There are many reasons why lab results fall out of the normal range including that it is normal for 5% (1 STD) to fall out of the range. If an abnormality is present does it give you actionable information? I cannot remember such a case where I changed anything based on lab results alone. If you make the changes how do you monitor success? The lab values of horses go up and down from day to day occasionally (5%) ranging out of the normal then coming back into the normal. It is the nature of homostasis.
I believe abnormal laboratory results in a healthy horse raise more questions than it answers. I know some perform such tests on their horses regularly and may even feel they have prevented disease but I don't know of any studies to support the activity in horses. Certainly in humans we have exceptions to this. For example type two diabetes which early on is a laboratory diagnosis, prior to clinical signs developing and hopefully preventing them, but we do not currently have any such early disease detection studies in horses that I am aware of with the possible exception of checking proper kidney and liver function prior to the use of anesthesia to be sure the horse will process the drugs properly.
DrO
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ilona
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Posted on Thursday, Sep 13, 2007 - 8:21 pm:
Thats good news Sara. Either way, what is best for her is what counts.
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mrose
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Posted on Thursday, Sep 13, 2007 - 9:26 pm:
Dr.O, I think I'm guilty of forgetting the differences between humans and horses. In people, bloodwork is more helpful in diagnosing than it seems to be with horses. Some of the drs. and nurses on HA can correct me or add to this, but not only diabetes, but I believe that other conditions like some types of arthritis, cancer, and some heart conditions can be picked up in the early stages by blood work. So, I always think blood work is important on a horse, too. What I didn't understand or think about is the range of "normal" and the fact there are such differences in levels from day to day. Like everyone on HA, I want what is best for my horse and sometimes "grasp at straws" or overdo in some way hoping it will help.
Ilona, there were howling winds today, so I didnt ride anyone. I did turn all the horses out, including Beau (aka Miss Piggy) but after about an hour she and her best buddy were ready to come in. They were so mad at me for making them stay out a couple of hours longer than they wanted to, that her buddy, Maarissa, actually put her ears back at me and threatened to nip! (I'm afraid she still remembers the "high life" of star show queen!) I'll try riding Beau a little tomorrow a.m. before the winds some up. She is still a little swollen right around her hock, but nothing like she was first of the week.
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paardex
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Posted on Friday, Sep 14, 2007 - 6:37 am:
Hi Sara, glad Beau feels better. I got your mails but mine arrive blank to everyone with the hotmail adress,so I will try the wanadoo adress. Sorry Dr.O for the misuse of this site but it is the only part on my computer that ALWAYS works.
Jos
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