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Discussion on Laminitis without toe pain?
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Skeller
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Posted on Monday, Apr 11, 2005 - 12:52 pm:
My gelding is suffering from a bout of laminitis that from the x-rays appears to be significant (<3 on RF, significantly more on LF but I don't have the measurements yet).
The strange part is that in the initial and followup exams he is NOT testing positive to the hoof testers in the toe. He only appears to have pain in the frog area.
Is this normal? I would think with any tearing of the laminae he would have some pain in the toe. He was on 1 gm bute 2x day during these tests, and was refusing to walk so you know he hurt.
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Deggert
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Posted on Monday, Apr 11, 2005 - 1:13 pm:
Skeller,
See what DR O says, but sometimes the pain moves around, sometimes I think it hurts so much the location can change. My mare blocked out on the inside hoof wall which confused us at first, but that just happened to be where the worst damage was. Take care, Debbie
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DrO
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Posted on Monday, Apr 11, 2005 - 7:14 pm:
I have seen mild founders that did not test positive at the toe Skeller, but if the feet were not warm and had a digital pulse I had a diagnostic dilemma: what makes you think its founder other than he did not want to walk?
DrO
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Skeller
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Posted on Monday, Apr 11, 2005 - 10:24 pm:
The xrays.
I was completely blind sided when they came back with rotation since I was kidding myself and thinking this was going to turn out to be a very mild case as he wasn't testing positive in the toe.
He is 11 and has been at the same barn (except for 8 months) since he was 3. No history of laminitis. Except that he tends to be gimpy when reshod. Could the rotation have happened gradually with us thinking it was something else?
The feet were warm according to the vet and farrier. I had a hard time feeling it myself. The digital pulse was significant.
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DrO
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Posted on Tuesday, Apr 12, 2005 - 7:25 am:
Sometimes you see mild rotation without a history of founder, particularly if the feet are not balanced. The warm feet and increased digital pulse in combination with everything else, including the radiographs paint a pretty certain picture. How is the horses stance: is he standing with his hind limbs moved further up under him than normal.
DrO
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