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Discussion on Kidney Problem or ?
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Kcovell
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Posted on Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 - 6:13 pm:
Dr. O
I hated to post the subject like that, but it's not my horse and with the symptoms I'm curious what would cause the problem.
The owner noticed when the horse urinated after a barrel race the urine was gel like and later got darker and was sometimes gel like, sometimes clear, and sometimes really dark and liquid.
The horse was taken to a vet school hospital where a urinalysis showed crystals in the urine. An ultra sound and scope were done and some "sludge" was drawn out. The horse quit drinking and was put on IV fluids. The horse still was eating, but now is impacted and there is wheezing in the lungs and they had to "bag" him (I don't know what that means).
I read about this and don't know the horse or person involved, but I'm really curious what would cause this? I know blood work was done, but do not know the results, however from what I've read it doesn't sound promising to me.
Could too much calcium cause something like this or eating something poisonous?
And what does bagging him mean? Is that like a colostomy?
Thanks
KC
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Shirl
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Posted on Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 - 11:06 pm:
KC, I'm not Dr. O, and I may be wrong about this, but I believe 'bagging' means putting an oxygen mask on him and with a 'bag' squeezing air in his lungs from some sort of contraption. If I am wrong, this will give y'all a good laugh anyway. Since he was wheezing that's my assumption. I apologize if I'm wrong here, and Dr. O will chime in. Shirl
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Kcovell
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Posted on Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 - 5:37 am:
Shirley
Sorry I meant to add and everyone because I'm really curious as to what could cause this. I thought about the oxygen mask, but then I also thought since he was impacted and seemed to be in bad shape maybe they wouldn't want to put a tube down him. I don't know. Of course it's too late to edit the post.
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DrO
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Posted on Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 - 9:11 am:
There appear to be 3 different diseases described above KC: urinary stones, impaction, and respiratory disease. Without more information I don't think there is a relation between them other than he was taken to the hospital where the feed change may have predisposed to impaction and he was exposed to a respiratory infection.
DrO
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Kcovell
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Posted on Sunday, May 8, 2005 - 5:53 am:
The horse in my post died a few days after the post.
I just received an e-mail from the owner who said the preliminary results showed thrombus in his large colon and the stress of everthing else caused it to rupture. She said she was told they never would have found it unless they had searched his entire colon knowing what they were looking for.
They still think something was wrong with his kidneys and the final results will be back sometime next week.
I have a question about the rupture, would the horse have had to be cut open to look for that kind of thing? Or is there another way?
I know some vets (and human doctors) wouldn't like the owner of an animal asking questions like did you check this or do that, but I like to try and keep up on everything so I can ask if I feel I need too.
KC
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DrO
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Posted on Sunday, May 8, 2005 - 9:15 am:
The specific diagnosis of thrombus would require opening up but the rupture could be assessed several ways with a belly tap the most efficient. Note that following rupture the horse will only live several hours until septic shock results in death.
DrO
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