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Member: readjoe |
Posted on Monday, Mar 17, 2008 - 1:31 pm: I have a horse with this condition, and before subjecting him to the surgery, I have been advised to try bodywork to help release some of the scar tissue. The ONLY reason I am hesitant on the surgery, which I have done alot of research on, is b/c with the tenectomy of the tibial insertion..I am a little afraid of the subsequent scar tissue to be formed while it reconnects. This horse is in his prime, and I want to be so careful with my decision. I am trying my darndest to find a peer review article to see what happens post op, post leaving the vet..like 6 mos down the road. I can see where things would look rosy a couple of weeks after, but what about several months after the complete healing, and possible scar tissue has settled in?HAS any one had any experience in this area?? Thankyou!! MB |
Moderator: DrO |
Posted on Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 - 6:45 am: Hello MB the long term prognosis for the surgery is given in the article. I don't really know anything much about myofascial release but my understanding is that it is basically a pain relieving technique. Fibrotic myopathy is a mechanical problem not a painful one.DrO |
Member: pbauer |
Posted on Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 - 8:14 pm: Dear Readjoe,Our veterinarian used Myofacial Release to ameliorate post surgical tissue problems. She employed, Ruth Mitchell: PT, CMT, NCTMB, Author, and International Lecturer. She has a website https://www.equinetherapeutic.com/index.htm And a Book: Facilitated Healing through Myofascial Release: Putting the Pieces Together for Horse and Rider (Illustrated) You can purchase it on her website. Stress Point Therapy -is used to release tension and adhesions in the muscles. Myofascial Release -Myofascia comes from the latin myo meaning muscle and fascia meaning band. The fascial system surrounds, supports, separates and protects the muscles and organs in the body. If this becomes damaged either by trauma or microtrauma (over a period of time), scar tissue is formed. This reduced elasticity in the fascia, thus restricting movement and causing the horse over time to alter his way of moving to compensate for this. Myofascial Release Therapy - Connective tissue is strong as it supports and protects all the way down to cellular level. It makes the body strong, agile and supple all at once. All tissue has memory. If the body experiences an unpleasant memory such as an accident, the cells remember this and tighten, causing a restriction in that area. Myofascial Release is a gentle, non-invasive method used to release tension, adhesions and scar tissue in the Fascial tissue. The pressure used is always gentle stretches which assist the horse to begin to help to heal himself. When it is used to release old scar tissue (at least 6-8 months after it has healed), after a session the scar tissue is softer and more pliable so the horse has less restricted movement. It is a very gentle therapy which can show impressive results after 4 to 5 sessions. A tightening in the fascia can cause hip hikes, pelvic misalignments, neck and spinal misalignments and eventually lameness. If the horse has been compensating for years a program is given once he is straight to assist in re-training the muscles to be used in a correct manner. Myofascial Release can also be used to assist riders who are misaligned and who may be causing the horse to go in a crooked manner. Due to the therapy being gentle, no harm can be caused by it, it either works when applied to an area that is tight, or does nothing when applied to an area that does not need it. Best, Tonya |
Member: readjoe |
Posted on Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 - 10:47 pm: Tonya, Thankyou very much for the informative reply..! Yes.that is why I am using this..to help release the facia..or relax it, so I can possibly get that extra inch that is causing his stride to shorten. I am waiting till June July for surgery, since FM is not painful, and I continue to ride him. It would be so nice if I did not have to do surgery, since I fear that more scar tissue will be created. THANKYOU again. Have you seen some good results..? I have had 3 sessions. I see all kinds of reflex popping going on under the skin.. |
Member: pbauer |
Posted on Wednesday, Mar 19, 2008 - 12:01 am: Hi,We haven't been on him yet, but our veterinarian said...absolutely positive results! He is still in Virginia. Best to You! Tonya |
Member: readjoe |
Posted on Wednesday, Mar 19, 2008 - 8:55 am: Tonya, So..you have had a surgery already, before employing this methodology? What type of surgery? how long has your horse been getting this? I am also planing to use this even if I do go with the tenectomy for his Fibrotic myopathy to faciliate a good healing and stave off more scar tissue. I will look up that book ,ect..today. I did fwd your article to my myo facial person..she is real keen on helping me.THANKYOU again..there is 2 groups..surgery vs non..and I need them both to talk! regards, MB |
Member: pbauer |
Posted on Monday, Mar 24, 2008 - 5:18 pm: Hello MB,Sorry for the late reply, so much going on right now. Yes, our horse had surgery on his leg, and then received the treatment. I'm not sure how many treatments he had, but our veterinarian ( in Virginia) was very happy with the results. He has completed his therapy. Scar tissue, correct alignment, and balance were all factored into his treatment regimen. I would continue with the treatment and ( if there is surgery) after...per your veterinarian's advice. Please keep all of us updated. Warm Regards, Tonya |
Member: readjoe |
Posted on Monday, Mar 24, 2008 - 7:34 pm: Tonya, Thanks. Have you gotten your horse back home yet? There is a PT by the name of Ruth Mitchell in Va. that does MFR alot..perhaps that is who did yours....? I am going to pursue this, until July and see what happens. What dicipline do you do with your horse? The reason I ask, is unless you have a 'performance horse' you might not think FM is such a big deal. Sounds like you have one. I do dressage and endurance. Ruth seems to think MFR will be very beneficial. Glad it went well for your horse, Mary Beth} |
Member: pbauer |
Posted on Monday, Mar 24, 2008 - 8:35 pm: Mary Beth,Yes, it was Ruth Mitchell...the link to her website is listed above. The story behind this beautiful boy is incredible and very long. Paul and I want to delineate it at some point. He is in Virginia, but not at Ruth's clinic. About your baby, I wholeheartedly agree with, Ruth Mitchell. You and your baby are in our prayers~ Most Sincerely, Tonya |
Member: readjoe |
Posted on Wednesday, Mar 26, 2008 - 9:25 am: Tonya!Thank you so much for your kind response. I am so glad your guy is doing so well. I have had so much going on, I forgot it was YOU that introduced me to Ruth Mitchell. I have tried to call her, and she has e-mailed me, and given me a couple contacts in the Central Tx area...which was nice. I finally got a peer reviewed article on the surgery procedure..from a library loan thing..and it looks very promising. so perhaps, like you, I can incorporate the MFR along with the surgery. Please forgive me if I asked too much of your own horses experience. I know its hard. Thanks again, Mary Beth |
Member: pbauer |
Posted on Friday, Mar 28, 2008 - 6:01 pm: Mary Beth,Thank you...and glad I could be of help. May I ask about the peer reviewed article that you mentioned? I'd like to read it, too. Best Regards, Tonya |
Member: readjoe |
Posted on Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 - 10:14 pm: Dr. O and Tonya,I am 5 weeks post surgery now. Tenotomy of tibial insertion. He looks and feels great. I am rehabbing him by riding everyday..in long and low trots, lunge on side reins, long free walks on trailrides, and a little cantering. He is definitely better..but is still a tad short on his stride in rt rear. I am waiting past the acute stage..which I figure is about 6 weeks for myo work. I am thinking of doing swimming rehab..to perhaps facilitate his range of motion. Any thoughts?? |
Moderator: DrO |
Posted on Monday, Jun 30, 2008 - 8:20 am: I cannot find anything wrong with trying swimming therapy readjoe.DrO |
Member: pbauer |
Posted on Monday, Jun 30, 2008 - 1:59 pm: Mary Beth,Swimming therapy...an extremely fabulous idea! I'm so happy to hear that your baby is DEFINITELY BETTER. It is going to take time, maybe more than you anticipated...but he is on the mend!! Best, Tonya |
Member: readjoe |
Posted on Thursday, Jul 10, 2008 - 10:35 pm: Tonya,He has been at the swim facility for 5 days..and is up to 5 laps..and doing very well. Nice , well run place. he is then put on the walker with a 17.5 hand warmblood eventer..and he does a nice long stretching walk for about an hour. he is 7weeks post surgery today. i hope to ride him this weekend in an arena so i can have good footing to try out his gaits. have not done anymore myo facail release..as of yet. how is your horse doing??? are you riding? thanks, Mary Beth |
Member: pbauer |
Posted on Friday, Jul 11, 2008 - 4:05 pm: Dear Mary Beth,I just saw this; I'm heading out to the barn, but will get back with you promptly My Very Best, Tonya |
Member: pbauer |
Posted on Saturday, Jul 12, 2008 - 12:59 am: Mary Beth,Our baby is still in Virginia, and doing very well. We will bring him home August-September time frame. He hasn't had any recent myo facial release therapy, but does enjoy his regular exercise routine. After he comes home, there will be a period of adjustment for all of us. Little by little...step by step we will all forge ahead. Very excited about your baby boy. It's a joy to know that he is doing so well. I'll let you know when our boy gets home. Paul and I can hardly wait!! Warmest Regards, Tonya P.S. Would love to have updates! |