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Discussion on Alopecia areata or pemphigus foliciaceus | |
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New Member: shaza |
Posted on Friday, Jun 27, 2008 - 7:13 am: HelpMy horse has an odd skin problem thats been going on for months now and is getting worse.My vets are really at a loss.They suspect Alopecia Areata but her sympstoms or signs of this are not normal. This is her Histolgy report followed by some pictures.She is currently on 100 steriod tablets a day,fuciderm cream applied twice daily,hibiscrub twice daily and broad spectrum antibiotics but at the moment there is no change.Any ideas? She currently has a 3 week old at foot. The way things are going at the moment we are just making her comfortable until foal old enough to be weaned and then she going to be put to sleep,but obviously i`d rather not to it.Her breathing is being affected as her nostirls are closing in and her lymph nodes are very swollen. Clinical information: At 9 months gestation developed alopecia on face,swelling of skin on face,and nodules between mandibles. Negative for ringwrom and parasites. Bloods at 9 months gestation normal. No respose to antibiotics and NSAIDs. Foalled normally. Has now gotten worse. Include biopsies from cheek and muzzle. Aspirate from nodules between mandibles. Macroscopic description 1) 2 grey skin punch biopsies 6mm bisected. Cut section pale and grey. Skin fragment embedded whole. 2) Scabby grey skin punch biopsies,6mm. Bisected,cut section pale. Microscopic description: Haired skin, 1 and 2bscuring the superficial dermis to the deep and lateral margins are myriad macrophages,lymphocytes,plasma cells and occasional neutrophils with rare multinucleated giant cells. Mulitfocally follicular epithelial sheaths are infiltrated and destroyed by neutrophils and lymphocytes, with pools of dengerate neutrophils within the intact lumen. Focally there is a 100 x 300 um fragment of material with numerous oblique PAS postive octagonal components, each with an indidvidual central pore (plant material,PRESUMPTIVE) within the mid-dermis. The overlying epidermis is moderatley to markedly hyperpalstic with multifocal ulceration. Ulcerated regions are infiltrated by myriad degenerate neutrophils within an eosinophilic martix(serosuppurative crusts). Entrapped with these crusts are variably sized colonies of gram postive cocci. There is multifocal parakeratotic hyperkeratosis.. Examination of cytology preps reveal normal blood [IMG]https://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/shazgeoff/variouspicsofhorses190.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/shazgeoff/variouspicsofhorses203.jpg[/IMG] |
Moderator: DrO |
Posted on Friday, Jun 27, 2008 - 9:08 am: I think the lesions too erosive for alopecia areata, on the other hand it does appear more like a severe folliculitis that may be immune mediated. Is the horse rubbing its head on fences or trees? This might account for the very odd finding of plant material in the lesion and the atypical appearance.How long have you been treating the horse and what is the type and concentration of the steroid tablets. DrO |
New Member: shaza |
Posted on Friday, Jun 27, 2008 - 11:10 am: She has been like this since January,but its got worse over a period of i would say 2 months.As far as im aware she not rubbing as we have electric fencing but when i apply cream she is now very itchy where as before it wasnt so itchy.She had a large steriod injection last week that was supposed to last a few days and is now on 100 x 5mg of Prednisolne a day. Ive removed her from her pasture which had long grass and now she on limited grazing. How much of this steriod will affect her foal aswell? |
Moderator: DrO |
Posted on Monday, Jun 30, 2008 - 7:53 am: The dosage of the tablets you are giving are anti-inflammatory and usually much higher dosages are needed to suppress autoimmune diseases. The effect on the foal may be similar as to the effects on the mare (see the section on Steroids for more on this). It would be best to wean the foal while treating with immune suppressive drugs.DrO |
New Member: shaza |
Posted on Monday, Jun 30, 2008 - 8:34 am: Ok will try to find a foster mum for him where he so young.Many thanks for help |