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| Member: sureed |
Posted on Sunday, Jul 20, 2008 - 1:37 am: We have a beautiful Iberian filly, born three weeks ago, who can't seem to lower her back left leg after lifting it upon rising in the morning. However, she is most capable on the leg after exercise in her pasture. Once warmed up she trots and canters normally. Her vet suspects a neurological deficiency that will improve over the next few months, and indeed she seems a little bit better each day. I can't find an article to address this issue specifically and would appreciated hearing from Dr. O for advice and from anyone who may have experienced this condition. Please find a picture of the filly below. We are hoping for the best possible outcome.Suzanne 
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| Member: scooter |
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| Member: paardex |
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| Member: sureed |
Posted on Sunday, Jul 20, 2008 - 9:53 pm: Diane, You are right on the money with the lying weird in the womb theory, the vet and the farm owner have posited this as well. Verbena was huge and had to be pulled. The farm owner/foal manager delivered her and said the back leg was folded up when she came out. There were some unfolding issues addressed by casting (on and off for about a week) but I can't recall which legs. She also had a little calcification on the outside of the left hock ((same leg now affected by the stringhalt action), but not in the growth plate, thankfully, as determined by x-rays), which implies she was lying in a way that a hoof was rubbing on the joint. And Jos, the vet does think she will outgrow it in a month or two. She is TB/Andalusian, DrOp dead gorgeous, very cocky, and a firebrand, much more frisky than her prior two siblings, though still very people oriented. The mare, Valentine Knight, and stallion, Jalisco X, are bay and we were very happy to see the stallion's chestnut gene present in three foals this year, though the other two were out of chestnut mares, as Chestnut Andalusians are rare. Valentine is one of my two mare-share mare's, so this filly is not mine. I have last year's and next year's foals. But I care about this filly nonetheless and want the best for her. I am posting the only other picture I have of her standing. I hope anyone else who has experienced this will let me know their outcomes.Also, another questions for Dr O. and anyone else who wants to offer an opinion. Valentine is particularly difficult to keep in form during her pregnancies, so she was given mucho food and supplements including daily probios to help keep her weight and she looked spectacular upon delivery. We had started at a deficit when she was bred because she was in poor form (by our standards)coming into her foal heat when she was first bred (she caught on the second try). It wasn't until close to weaning that we observed she had taken on nursing her pasture sister's foal as well as her own, because the other mare wasn't producing enough milk to satisfy her colt. So the question is, did our extra attention to building up and maintaining weight on this mare contribute to the large foal? Should we rethink our feeding program for her in an attempt to manage foal size? This year's foal is a full sibling to last year's foal. He had a normal delivery with no developmental issues. The mare was born in 1991, so she is 17 this year and will be 18 when she delivers her next foal (from an Oldenburg stallion). (I know she doesn't look very special with her long dipped back and high end, but she was a durable race horse who ran in 37 races and raced until she was 7 years old, retiring sound. She throws the most beautiful heads and temperaments and we are careful to cross her with shorter backed horses. She was approved in the Oldenburg Main Mare Book when she was 15). Dr. O, should I start a separate thread on this question? Thanks again for all of the information I can get. Suzanne 
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| Member: imogen |
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| Member: paardex |
Posted on Monday, Jul 21, 2008 - 12:52 pm: Love the mare too, my first broodmare was a TB with such long lines too, no matter what stallion[imo even a donkey would do ] you gave her her foals always jumped. 8 Foals born 8 jumping 1.35m or higher!! She also gave herself totally away, so after a while she was rebred 6 months after the foal giving either a very early or a very late foal with 2 out of three years. That gave her time to recuperate. I can see however that won't work for you, and the food is in the meantime gotten much better so I think you can feed enough to keep her going but especially pregnant I would strictly keep her on a diet per vet advised[I use the ones of this site] to make sure you don't overdo the energy and do to little on the vit.min. front. Imogen is right though the foal looks as if she needs to 'unfold'in front so that could give her problems on the hind end perhaps? Jos |
| Member: sureed |
Posted on Monday, Jul 21, 2008 - 5:56 pm: Imogen and Jos,Didn't notice it before, but she does appear a bit rabbit like. I'll take another picture when I get up to the farm this weekend (somewhat difficult because she likes to shove her nose into the camera rather than posing nicely while I snap photos).  Thanks all, I'll update on any new developments. Suzanne |
| Member: sureed |
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| Member: paardex |
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| Member: mrose |
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| Member: sureed |
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| Member: sureed |
Posted on Saturday, Jul 26, 2008 - 11:47 am: Hi all,Just wanted to update you on Verbena. Tried to get a picture of the condition yesterday but it is disappearing so quickly that I couldn't. She was sleeping when I arrived. Upon rising she puts weight on the leg and then lifts it for about 1 second and then puts it down and walks a few steps, up it comes for about another second and then off she goes with no evidence of anything wrong. The people who observe her everyday say she is improving daily. So for now, it looks like this will work itself out. Here are more pictures, just because she is so cute.  
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| Member: mrose |
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| Member: dres |
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| Member: sureed |
Posted on Saturday, Jul 26, 2008 - 6:03 pm: Sara,This is a mare share foal and she belongs to the other breeder (and farm owner) at Serpentine, so Jane named her. If you've ever been on our site (see my profile). you will see that Jane prides herself in unusual and sometimes unpronounceable names. I guess it is part of our schtick. We like Celtic names especially. My 2006 Hanoverian filly was name Labhaoise, after an Irish woman warrior, but it is pronounced "LA-VO-SHA." Her nickname was Libby, but her owner calls her "Cupcake." Not my cup of tea especially for a horse that will be 17+h, but whatever. She has a wonderful home. Hi Ann! I guess not. I don't mind bats but Vampires I can do without. I know we are not supposed to change up the thread, but I think this one is almost done. I'll post an update in a month or two just so everyone knows the outcome on Verbena. However, I will take the liberty of posting a picture of Peabody whom you visited in ICU. He is two now, 15.2h and obviously on another growth spurt. He is sold to a young girl who will be using him for eventing. Hope all is well, Suzanne 
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