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Discussion on Hot hoof
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New Member:
julianne
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Posted on Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 - 12:28 am:
hello everyone.
I have a horse diagnosed with laminitis. My vet just put him on a supplement called "hot hoof." It appears to be a mixture of chinese herbs that my vet says "promotes hoof growth." Has anyone ever heard of this or tried it? Does anyone know anything else about it??? I tried an internet search and it came up with nothing.
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DrO
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Posted on Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 - 7:47 am:
Welcome julianne,
I have not seen such a product. Can you tell us which herbs and how much? For our recommendations on foot supplements see Horse Care » Hoof Care, Hoof Trimming, Shoeing Horses » Care of the Hoof: an Overview.
DrO
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vickiann
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Posted on Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 - 1:44 pm:
julianne, In my experience, there is a Hot Hoof 1 and Hot Hoof 2. one of mine used Hot Hoof 1 for several weeks after an acupuncture treatment to encourage re-growth of a foot after a hoof avulsion (he broke his entire heel off including coronet band). The Hot Hoof 1 was prescribed by the head of holistic medicine for the University of Florida (the acupuncture had been recommended by my farrier at that time due to good results in a similar situation).
Another of my horses used Hot Hoof 2 for a sore foot, also prescribed by the same holistic Veterinarian.
A friend of mine also used a Hot Hoof product for laminitis (and acupuncture as well) for her horse who became very ill including laminitis after eating much of a bag of grain.
In all cases, we had very excellent results, but lacking scientific study cannot verify with certainty exactly what yielded those results.
In general I adhere to conventional veterinary practice for my horses, though I do believe that there have been times when the holistic treatments were helpful as well.
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New Member:
julianne
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Posted on Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 - 10:01 pm:
I went to the barn and checked the label. It includes: Peony, ligusticum, angelica, licorice, cinnamomum, carthamus, platycodum, artemasia. I'm a little bit of a stickler for treatments being research based. I'm not "anti" alternative treatments. I just want to know that they are safe. Yes, Vicki. It is "hot hoof 2". Thanks for your info! It makes me feel better that someone has used it with good results.
The rest of his recommendations include bute, a supplement that was researched and developed locally to supplement local hay quality etc. and he also diagnosed hypothyroidism so he prescribed a supplement for that. We couldn't pinpoint the cause of his laminitis which is why he ordered the blood test in the first place.
The farrier will be coming this weekend. He has rotation in all four feet of between 5.3 degrees and 6.3 degrees with the back feet being worse than the front ones.
I know he'll never be perfect again, but I'm hoping and praying for him to at least be sound. He's an absolute joy of a horse and I love him so much!! I've never had a horse with laminitis before and I can't believe how sad I am about this. I'm still trying to figure out what I did wrong 
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New Member:
julianne
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Posted on Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 - 10:56 pm:
Oh...I forgot the second part of your question Dr. O. He takes 2 tbsp AM and PM. It's awful smelling stuff that took about 2 weeks of disguising to make it palatable to him.
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DrO
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Posted on Wednesday, Nov 12, 2008 - 7:46 am:
Hello julianne,
I know of no evidence that any of the herbs would help hoof growth. Neither is there any evidence that acupuncture would benefit hoof growth.
DrO
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ajudson1
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Posted on Wednesday, Nov 12, 2008 - 8:09 am:
Julianne,
There is no reason to believe that he can never be sound again. With proper management and a knowledgeable farrier trained to treat laminitis cases, he'll have a good chance of being just fine.
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Member:
scooter
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Posted on Wednesday, Nov 12, 2008 - 8:32 am:
Julianne, I agree with Angie having been through founder with my horse. He rotated 8 degrees in front, I never had his backs x-rayed, but I have no doubt he rotated in them also.
Dr.O.s articles and the members helped finally bring him around. It has taken 1.5 yrs. of trimming, diet, ups, and downs PLUS 5 million post on HA). At this point you would never know there was anything wrong with him. Here is my hopefully final post about it. There is hope, and patience plays a big role
https://www.horseadvice.com/horse/messages/4/296453.html
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vickiann
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Posted on Wednesday, Nov 12, 2008 - 5:12 pm:
My current farrier has brought horses back into full use (including showing, and mares able to successfully be used for breeding) that had much worse founder -- even one where the coffin bone fell through the bottom of the foot.
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Member:
juliem
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Posted on Wednesday, Nov 12, 2008 - 7:46 pm:
Welcome Julianne--laminitis and founder can be successfully managed, but you will probably need to be committed as Diane says. Absolutely, unless you already have, read Dr. O's articles and the links. Actually, even if you have read them, read them again as the more you learn, the more questions you will have and the better the prognosis for your horse. A great equine vet and farrier team are a must and as some members have found, not all are skilled and knowledgeable about laminitis. Treatment protocols and trimming/shoeing methods have changed much and very rapidly bringing a lot of horses back to soundness that would have previously been history. You're gonna learn a whole lot about feet in the coming months--that's where you'll find the fix for your horse--not in a bag, bucket or bottle. And among the members here who have had foundered horses, we've probably tried them all, but positive outcome results from proper management and diet, trimming, perhaps shoeing, the right vet and farrier and time. Best of luck and keep us posted--you'll have lots of questions I'm sure.
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