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Discussion on Cephapirin benzathine
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dres
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Posted on Thursday, Apr 9, 2009 - 8:52 pm:
or Tomorrow ... just wanted to let folks know this is the thrust buster to use.. it will knock out thrust in as little as a week of applications...
I also found that it works for scratches with just 3 applications...
I give this cow med a two thumbs up..
On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with spots..
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rtrotter
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Posted on Thursday, Apr 9, 2009 - 9:41 pm:
Ann,
I used a similar product called Today made by the same company. The active ingredient is Cephapirin Sodium and it works very well too.
The difference in the two products for cows is that one is for non-lactating cows( dry) and one is for lactating cows.
I am not sure what the difference is for horses.
I saw a difference within days. I squirted the Today in and packed the crevices with gauze. I was using the same size gauze pad and by day 3 I could not fit the whole gauze pad in and had to cut some off. I kept treating until I could not get any of the gauze pad in the foot about 10 days.
So, I give it a thumbs up as well.
Rachelle
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DrO
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Posted on Friday, Apr 10, 2009 - 7:17 am:
Hello Guys,
They both contain cephapirin, but I believe the dry cow medication is more concentrated since milk withdrawl times not a problem.
We have often received reports of a positive outcome with these products and I have considered adding the recommendation to the article, it just is that I have such great outcomes with my homemade formalin compound that just cost pennies a day and unlike the antibiotic I believe the formalin helps create a protective barrier. What did it cost to treat your horses?
DrO
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gingin
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Posted on Friday, Apr 10, 2009 - 8:26 am:
Hello Everyone,
I also have to vouch for this product, especially the dry cow formulation (sold as CefaDry). If you get a whole case of syringes (12 I think, long shelf life) and use them all its tops $20. Dr. O. the CefaDry, after applied, sticks to the tissues and makes some kind of film. We found this product to be especially useful if you have thrush in the deep commissurs of the frog or under flaps. The syringes come with a very fine applicator tip that is perfect to reach very deep areas and deposit the antibiotic. After first treatment of deep thrush I usually just vet-wrap the hoof for a day and then continue treatment. We have just gotten rid of a very difficult case of lameness causing deep thrush and ended up with beautiful re-growth of the tissues within the deep frog commissure. Nothing else has helped and using this product basically out of a box and with minimal mess also kept the horse owner motivated to treat frequently.
Thrush now gone, horse happy!
Christine
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ekaufman
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Posted on Friday, Apr 10, 2009 - 10:03 am:
Ok, I had a boarder who treated her mare various ways for chronic thrush up into the heel bulbs for 2 years. Finally she tried the CefaDry a year ago (a case for ~$24 plus vetwrap and duct tape etc.). It cleared the thrush up and it it hasn't recurred. I was stunned, but it has been a great relief for the mare and the boarder.
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dres
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Posted on Friday, Apr 10, 2009 - 10:25 am:
I have not bought the tubes by the case, but by the tube, $3.00 a tube ... a tube will last for all 4 hoofs / 3 daily treatments.. I found it just takes a week of use to cure the deep thrush.. and now for scratches, with 3 applications the raw area is gone and the mare is not complaining when i rub her fetlock.. .. Wish i had known about this product a few years ago with a mare that i battled the deep frog thrush with packing / wrapping etc..
This tube comes with a nice long tip / EASY ..
You know it will go off the market now cus it works...
On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with spots..
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scooter
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Posted on Friday, Apr 10, 2009 - 2:53 pm:
Best stuff I have ever used too. It also works on Scratches (mud fever) so far anyway. .
I recommend it to everyone who has a stubborn case of thrush. A carton of Tomorrow costs around $22 and lasts me a year usually...so price isn't bad!
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DrO
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Posted on Friday, Apr 10, 2009 - 6:58 pm:
Last chance guys any negative reports?
If not and even without any scientific evidence or...gasp...personal experience I will include this in the article. I do like the idea of the lowered toxicity, the cost as described above very reasonable.
 DrO
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rtrotter
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Posted on Friday, Apr 10, 2009 - 7:44 pm:
Dr.O,
No negative reports on these products but I do have a question, that my vet could not answer, since he had never heard of this product before.
My barefoot trimmer told me about this product.
Would the antibiotics used in these products show up in pre- or post race testing procedures?
Thanks
Rachelle
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hollyw
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Posted on Saturday, Apr 11, 2009 - 8:52 am:
Now, Ann . . . I hope it doesn't go off the market. I could really use this stuff on my draft. He has three feet that have chronic thrush. I trim carefully and used the Thrush Buster, but it hasn't knocked it out. He's a pain in the neck to keep stalled, so it's tough to keep his feet dry, but if I can see an end to the treatment, then I can keep him stalled for a couple of weeks at the most. It's just that he's one of those horses that stands on panels and paws . . . hates to be confined to a small space, and I don't blame him.
So . . . which is the better product? Cepha-Dry? Today? Tomorrow?
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dres
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Posted on Saturday, Apr 11, 2009 - 9:57 am:
Holly, I treated my mare with the Tomorrow ,never wrapped or stuffed the crevice, and she was turned out in her soupy paddock... IT STILL CLEARED IT UP IN A WEEK...
This stuff is amazing... My mare with scratches ... gone!
On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with spots..
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scooter
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Posted on Saturday, Apr 11, 2009 - 10:08 am:
Holly I believe cepha-dry and tomorrow are the same thing. cepha-dry is a little cheaper in this area. The DRY cow stuff is always what I have heard works best. It does create a bit of water proofing as it seems somewhat "oily"
When treating I always let mine out in the "elements" if it is really wet out I apply it 3 times a day and it does work!
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hollyw
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Posted on Saturday, Apr 11, 2009 - 5:16 pm:
I don't believe I can order this medication from Valley Vet or from Horse Health. From where have you purchased it?
Thanks.
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gingin
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Posted on Saturday, Apr 11, 2009 - 5:50 pm:
Hello Holly,
yes, Valley Vet has it:
https://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=30e079c5-7b6a-11d5-a192-00b0d0204 ae5
Christine
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scooter
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Posted on Saturday, Apr 11, 2009 - 6:02 pm:
Or here is the whole page of it take your pick
https://www.valleyvet.com/ct_product_group.html?cguid=588E05A5-A7D0-48CF-AE04-E6B D566D4317
Holly any farm store that carries cow stuff will probably have this...we even have it here!
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vickiann
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Posted on Saturday, Apr 11, 2009 - 8:46 pm:
This is the kind of stuff that my farrier suggests and keeps on hand for his clients for thrush (which I personally have not had any problems with for years) but it is great to know that it works for "scratches" since I sometimes have that problem with one of mine.
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hollyw
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Posted on Saturday, Apr 11, 2009 - 11:36 pm:
Thanks, guys. I get Valley Vets catalog every couple of months, but I didn't find the cepha stuff in there with the thrush meds.
Didn't think to look online. I usually phone in my order. I will definitely get some of this and treat poor Tucker's hooves. Maybe I can take some "before/after" pics to show how the medication works.
Thanks, again.
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paul303
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Posted on Sunday, Apr 12, 2009 - 1:02 am:
Holly, Let us know how you make out.
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mitch316
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Posted on Sunday, Apr 12, 2009 - 1:19 am:
Holly and others, KV Pet and Equine Supply is a great place to get all of your animal supplies too. They have everything from bandages to suture kits, to surgical supplies. And their prices are really hard to beat as well, well below the supply stores around here and almost 50% cheaper than 1800 PetMeds. They offer free UPS shipping on most items. I order all of my OB supplies from them, and just recently ordered some suture kits and biopsy kits as well. They have field test kits...well, I am not a salesman, so you'll just have to check them out. They are like a Tractor Supply, only cheaper and better stocked.
Their address is: www.kvvet.com. I found them because that is where the vet I used to work from orders, and it really is a one stop shopping place.
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Member:
scooter
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Posted on Sunday, Apr 12, 2009 - 5:51 am:
Holly if you go looking for this stuff it's not in the thrush aisle...it's for mastitis in dairy cows.
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hollyw
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Posted on Sunday, Apr 12, 2009 - 8:19 am:
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh . . . that explains it, Diane.
I get the Equine catalog . . . no bovines in the pages. Thanks.
Yes, Jesse, I get the KV Vet Catalog, but, for me, Valley Vet seems to have more of what I need at better prices than any other place, 'cept sometimes Country Supply. Maybe it's because I don't foal out mares or suture wounds. Also, Valley Vet is right here in KS, so now that I live here, I get the products the next day without charge, and that's a big plus.
When I lived in CO, there was a Vet supply store about 15 minutes away. It was great in a pinch if I got low on cotton batting or Elasticon or gauze or vet wrap. It was more expensive than mail order, but was a big help when my bandaging supplies got low before I could reorder from a catalog.
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mrose
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Posted on Sunday, Apr 12, 2009 - 9:39 am:
Holly, our local feed stores carry this stuff, but again in the "cow aisle" not where the horse meds are. You might give your local place a look.
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