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9193

Posted on Monday, May 23, 2005 - 1:35 pm:

Hello,

Our T-bred is rehabbing with a left leg injury.. My 14 year old daughter loves to spend time with him and is using the time she would be riding to improve many skills that she needs for dealing with horses such as wrapping legs, giving injections and applying medications.

A question we both have and I can't answer it with any certainty after researching the info in HA is..How do you determine which liniments, clay poultices and other lotions that are available for rubbing on horses legs are OK to leave on a horses legs and then wrap over..?

For example.. We have Bigeloil and Mineral Ice.. After a show, could we rub a horses legs down with either of these two items, wrap legs, trailer home and leave on overnight? Or..Prior to a long trailor ride(3-4 hours) could we rub something on legs, wrap and then redo the liniment rub upon arrival?

Are there specific liniments or lotions you should never wrap over? Do these liniments state that on the bottle? Is is better to dilute liniments/lotions if you are going to wrap over them or is full strength OK?

She is practicing (under supervision of her trainer and myself) the application of leg wraps with standing bandages and polo wraps. It has been a good, non stressful time to teach and learn these skills and she is pretty good! Justin seems to enjoy all the fussing and "spa" days as well.

Thanks for your thoughts,
Debra
Member:
Canter

Posted on Monday, May 23, 2005 - 3:13 pm:

Hi Debra,
I know DMSO (or "yellow leg sweat" as I've seen it labelled) can be irritating to some horses (although my mare tolerated it well, under wraps)but I believe it comes in different strengths, so what works for any individual horse would probably have to be determined by trial and error / frequent checking or by working with your vet.

I also remember a friend "burning" her horses legs several years back by applying some type of heat generating liniment to her horse's legs and wrapping after a weekend of showing. Unfortunately, I do not remember specifically which one it was, but I mention it as a caution.

Sorry I can't be more specific than that...
Member:
Shirl

Posted on Monday, May 23, 2005 - 11:34 pm:

Debra, When Sierra had a sprain in one of her ligaments, my vet suggested putting Furazone Ointment on the leg FIRST, to avoid the DSMO from burning. It worked very well. It was then wrapped and kept on for 2 days, then unwrapped for a few hours, then wrapped again WITHOUT anything for two days, then begin the process again with both ointments. This we did for 10 days.
Best of luck, Shirl
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Ribbons

Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 7:07 am:

We used a Furazone and DMSO sweat recommended and compounded by a veterinarian at a university hospital on our mare. We applied it and then wrapped the area. We left it on overnight and her leg was mildly burned so we discontinued using it. She was a thoroughbred and is typically sensitive. Probably depends on the horse.
Moderator:
DrO

Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 7:18 am:

Debra,
In the case of proprietary linaments I would follow the label instructions carefully when using them, they can differ in not only ingredients but concentration. If there are no instructions I would not buy them. Both the article associated with this forum and the companion article Counter Irritation as Therapy in Horses (link in the first article) give broad guide lines on their use and the use of some homemade products.
DrO
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9193

Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 12:31 pm:

Thank you Dr.O,

I completely missed that link by not scrolling down far enough. Very helpful information.. I will have my daughter read it later..

For the future, I shall stick to wrapping legs without rubicants unless recommended for specific reasons.

Fran, I used Absorbine Thermaflex on myself for shoulder soreness awhile back when I was at the barn and didn't have any Tylenol.. I figured it was ok for a horse, so why not??? I didn't put much on, but boy did it burn!!!! That's when I started wondering about these liniments and lotions and what it would feel like if these chemicals couldn't dissapate because they were trapped under wraps..

Interesting information- Thank you

Smiles,
Debra
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DrO

Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 10:19 am:

Bob, I have removed your post because it was an advertisement. You can advertise in the Ads Section and you can put your information in your profile but we don't allow overt ads in the boards.
DrO
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rfertel

Posted on Wednesday, Jun 10, 2009 - 9:43 pm:

I have an odd question for a book i am writing about horse racing in the 1960s. Does anyone remember a product called Ball's Liniment? If so, any details about the product or the company would be appreciated.

Randy Fertel
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scooter

Posted on Wednesday, Jun 10, 2009 - 11:02 pm:

Hi randy, I was searching for liniment for my mare a few mos. ago and ran across Ball liniment, it stuck in my head because I remember it from the "old days" and didn't think they made it anymore

I don't know if this is the same thing you are talking about or not
https://www.bigdweb.com/detail.aspx?id=2272
Member:
paul303

Posted on Thursday, Jun 11, 2009 - 2:10 am:

Sure I remember it. They still sell it. It's an old liniment and brace for sore muscles and after a work out. Kind of like Bigeloil or Absorbine.

"OLD DAYS" Diane???? Hmmm....on second thought....nope, never heard of the stuff.......
Member:
rtrotter

Posted on Thursday, Jun 11, 2009 - 8:17 am:

Randy,

I found Balls Liniment at Big D's. It is manufactured by Jacks Manufacturing.

There are also two other products with similar names.

The first product is B.A.L. Liniment and as others have stated above it can be used as a leg and body brace, However a search on this product did not show any immediate results, so it may not be manufactured anymore or they have changed its name.

The second product is Ball Solution which is an iodine based leg paint made by McTarnahan.

Rachelle
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