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Member: leilani |
Posted on Friday, Jul 17, 2009 - 7:35 pm: Dr O,My 15yo QH mare has had problems with bumps on her neck and back 2 summers in a row. Vet gave her a steroid injection last year, but it only helped for a very short time. This is a picture of her neck just above the withers. I would like to try the DVM Derm Caps you recommend in the above article. If I am understanding correctly, I would give her the equivalent of 1 cap for a 100-200# dog 2x a day. Thank you. Leilani |
Moderator: DrO |
Posted on Sunday, Jul 19, 2009 - 11:42 am: Leilani,What does the veterinarian say causes the bumps? Locally such an appearance would suggest fly bites or less likely a bacterial skin infection like Dermatophilus. DrO |
Member: leilani |
Posted on Sunday, Jul 19, 2009 - 1:13 pm: Dr. O,He says may be gnats or flies. Leilani |
Moderator: DrO |
Posted on Monday, Jul 20, 2009 - 8:17 am: The dermacaps may have small effects on immune mediated diseases. Your problem sounds more like the direct damage and irritation and not a runaway immune system reaction.You could try them but more effective are the suggestions in the articles on controlling biting flies in the Diseases of Horses » Skin Diseases, Wounds, and Swellings » Hair and Coat Problems / Itching / Irritated Skin section. There is one on biting flies and one on biting gnats and midges. We treat them separately because they have different habits. DrO |
Member: cmatexas |
Posted on Monday, Jul 20, 2009 - 1:10 pm: Leilani,Been there, done that, got the vet bills to show for it!!! We have a horse with EXTREME fly allergies; local vets were totally unable to treat his condition. Steroid shots didn't even phase it one bit. He even has some scarring from the secondary infections he developed. Look back over posts from several years ago, I think there are pics. Final trip to Texas A&M gave us diagnosis (fly and timothy hay allergy), and excellent treatment course. Two years out, not a hive or sore in site, and he used to be miserable!! Vet there said it was one of the worst reactions she has ever seen on the allergy panel. Prior to fly season, we start him on HyDrOxyzine Pamoate, 50 mg, twice a day, and increase dosage as summer progresses. He is huge halter horse (1400 lbs or so), and we have a horrible fly problem, so he gets quite a large dose. Your vet could tell you the best dose. We also feed a supplement called Glanzen, which has largest amount of Omega acids you can get in a horse supplement. It comes from Horsetech.com. Again, A&M dermatologist rec. it, and it is a life saver! Plus, gives a really shiny coat and good hooves. We also found that "long lasting" flysprays seemed to irritate the condition instead of helping, so we use pyrannah daily, on areas not covered by REALLY good fly sheet. You have to cover the neck too. We found that reaction, when it was really going, would spread over entire body, including areas not bitten by flies, i.e. - neck bites could cause reaction on flanks!! Unfortunately, once he starts reacting, you are behind the 8-ball, and just have to deal as best as possible, and get ahead of it next year. If he does react locally, we have a steroid cream that an ER doc prescribed. (It's for me, for a fertilizer burn/reaction, but she also shows horses, and gave me a HUGE jar to use on our horse, whom she is familiar with ) I will have to check at barn for name. I assume a vet could write scrip for it??? She just refills it for me, and insurance covers it. (Yes, yes, I know, but it really saves on the $$$). You can only use it for 3 days at a time. Anyway, hope this helps!! |
Member: npo33901 |
Posted on Monday, Jul 20, 2009 - 4:49 pm: Michelle, did your horse had ulcers in his nose and lips as well ? |
Moderator: DrO |
Posted on Tuesday, Jul 21, 2009 - 8:21 am: Hello Michele,I would like to comment that if high doses of glucocorticoids did not effect the condition remarkably this is very unlikely to be a primary allergic condition. And that you too are dealing primarily with the direct effect of the bites. The key to control is not the antihistamine or expensive nutrients but the prevention of being bit by insects. Yes medication can ameliorate the effects of getting bit and nutrition might give some help but the key is preventing your horse from getting bit. DrO |
Member: cmatexas |
Posted on Wednesday, Jul 22, 2009 - 12:52 pm: Fame,Ulcers, no, but he would get the same hives on his face as everywhere else. And Dr. O is VERY right - key is to keep reaction from ever starting. Tuff is under full fly sheets, and stall has fans, as well as a automatic fly sprayer, and we are very careful to keep every thing clean and dry, and remove manure daily, as well as hay. But without the medicine, he will still react. Can't cover his ENTIRE body. Few inches are still exposed. |