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  Discussion on Neoplasene Tx for Sarcoids/tumors
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Member:
rubysmom

Posted on Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 - 2:04 am:

My horse has a sarcoid/tumor on his sheath. It was just a nodule for a long time and I kept an eye on it, but in the past couple of months it has sprouted into a grape sized tumor.
I had my vet out to look at it this past week and he prescribed Neoplasene.
This is a botanical topical gel that works by attacking the diseased flesh. The tumor will dry up and "fall off" leaving a wound/hole where it was that heals up with minimal scarring.
I applied it as directed and 2 days later the tumor has started to separate from the healthy flesh. This stuff is amazing. It also comes with a balm that helps heal the skin.
So far, one application has been applied and I am now using the balm and waiting for the tumor to detach. If the one application does not end it I can do another application, but it seems like this may do the trick? Not certain yet, but we'll see.
I need to get pix, it's hard to take a good pic of a black horse's sheath, lol, light is not good under there.
I'll keep you guys update. I tried a search on the site for Neoplasene, but it didn't show up. If you search online the website comes up with case studies and information. Hope this helps, if anyone needs more info, let me know.
Moderator:
DrO

Posted on Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 - 10:12 am:

Hello Angela,
Certainly an interesting report on a product I have not used. I am concerned about the lack of scientific study on this product, some conflicting statements made on the site, and the large body of information in the literature on the terrible outcomes in humans with the use of blooDrOot (Sanguinaria canadensis) products. I don't believe the manufacture's claims that this product only seeks out diseased tissue.

The traditional blooDrOot product is called black salve which is a potent escharotic that causes necrosis when it comes into contact with tissue. Buck Mountain makes a point of Neoplasene not being the same as black salve. The following is taken from the Neoplasene web site:

Buck Mountain Neoplasene
Buck Mountain Neoplasene is formulated from blooDrOot extract, halogens and water. It is administered topically and orally. Neoplasene is red when formulated and turns black, or near black, with age. It is used topically on sarcoids, carcinomas and other malignant or viral tissue. It works well on proud flesh. It should be taken post treatment orally.

It should be applied directly on tumorous growths and covered with a balm (e.g. Buck Mountain Wound Balm for Animals) coated gauze. The lectins in the medicine react with the particular polysaccharides in the neoplastic cell membrane of microbes, neoplasm and proud flesh, but not the healthy cell, to penetrate the cell and cause apoptosis. This medicine is also administered orally and by injection.

It is injected in a methyl sulfoxide base to good advantage. Contact Buck Mountain for more information.

This product is contraindicated during pregnancy.
Prolonged contact with healthy tissue is to be avoided.
This product is for veterinarian's use only.

On another page of their site I find this disclaimer:
DISCLAIMER
We did not invent botanical medicines and we do not recommend that the use of botanical medicines should be undertaken on the strength of our restatement of historical usage and documented research.

For full disclosure it should be noted that I do recommend a escharotic, that is purported to have blooDrOot in it, for the use of some types of sarcoids in horses based solely on my own experience and published case reports. For more on this see the article on Sarcoids. Whether this product is better or worse remains to be seen but caution needs to be exercised with the use of these products because of the potential to do damage to healthy tissue.
DrO
Member:
gramsey1

Posted on Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 - 10:50 am:

I found this on a site discussing BlooDrOot.

The FDA has banned the importation of all "black salve" products . . . BlooDrOot Paste . . .

BTW, Iodine is a halogen. so this stuff could be blooDrOot, alcohol, iodine and water.

It may be that this is a Homeopathic formula. So, it may contain only tiny amounts of BlooDrOot. Still . . .
Member:
rubysmom

Posted on Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 - 11:52 pm:

Interesing points. My vet has used this on quite a few cases and said that it has worked really well, which is why he prescribed it for my horse.
I"ll let you know how it turns out.
Thanks so much for the input. So far it seems to be hitting the growth/sarcoid pretty good after one application.
It's powerful stuff, I do hope it works safely...keep your fingers crossed. I trust my vet and he's pretty cutting edge on new stuff, though he's not a holistic guy, he's pretty open minded about different types of treatment.
Member:
rubysmom

Posted on Monday, Jun 28, 2010 - 1:52 am:

OK, update on James's "little friend".
Today is exactly 10 days since I applied the Neoplasene and James' sarcoid is around 90% detached.
The flesh underneath is pink and healthy granulation tissue. It looks like the sarcoid should be completely off by tomorrow (Monday), but we'll see.
James has been comfortable and ridden almost daily since the treatment started and has suffered no ill effects, except for a little bit of scabbing on his inner thigh where the Neoplasene must have touched it when he laid down to sleep.
I am going to have a wound to manage, but it looks like it may end up being around the size of a 1/2 dollar coin, roughly circular.
My buddy took a couple of pix, so when she emails them to me I will share the pix....but if you're squeamish, you may want to skip them...LOL!
So far so good.....
Moderator:
DrO

Posted on Tuesday, Jun 29, 2010 - 1:31 pm:

Thanks for the continued updates Angela,
DrO
Member:
rubysmom

Posted on Friday, Aug 27, 2010 - 2:17 am:

Update on James' sarcoid.
Had to do one more tx. of Neoplasene, but it certainly did the trick.
The wound was pretty deep and roughly about the size of a quarter, maybe a bit bigger.
It has been actively healing, pink granulation tissue filling in the full skin thickness wound.
It is now pretty much 85% healed..just two small spots that are still pretty raw, but clean and healthy looking.
He will have some scarring, but the sarcoid is GONE, and the scarring will be pretty minimal, if you know it's there you'll see it, but otherwise it's totally not going to be noticeable (and it's on the side of the sheath, so totally not a cosmetic issue, lol.
He had no discomfort at all, but at one point in the healing the wound and the area around it was icredibly itchy.
I would gently scrub the area with a moist, soft cloth to clean it before putting balm on it, and he would just about fall over when I rubbed the area. Lips out, all wiggly lips, neck stretched out as far as it could go and eyes half shut in ecstasy.
Though the healing is slow, it's steady and I will be very happy when he's all healed up.
Member:
frances

Posted on Friday, Aug 27, 2010 - 11:36 am:

Very good news! Glad to hear he's been enjoying some of the treatment so much too!
New Member:
heike

Posted on Tuesday, Dec 31, 2013 - 3:14 pm:

Hi,

i am new to this group and was wondering if Angela might contact me personally, as i would have a lot of questions. my horse has a golf ball sized sarcoid on his sheath, and i have been trying to treat it since last May with all kinds of salves, Xxterra one of them.
nothing has worked so far and i would love to have more information on that Neoplasene.
my email is heikeb@fairpoint.net
Moderator:
DrO

Posted on Saturday, Jan 4, 2014 - 8:20 am:

Welcome Heike,
Have you read the article on Sarcoids where we discuss a number of sarcoid treatment modalities and there strengths and weaknesses? You can reach it by clicking on "» Sarcoid »" on the navigation bar at the top of this page. If after reading you have questions you should start your own discussion using the button at the bottom of the article.
DrO
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