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Member: lisabel |
Posted on Monday, Jul 5, 2010 - 4:38 am: 22 month old colt just arrived to me with a club foot, asymmetric shoulders (higher and more muscular on non club side), and short in stride at walk on the club side. Breeder said he broke the toe off the hoof two months prior to arrival, but had perfect hooves before that.1) any hope to remedy this at this time? Future soundness probabilities? (should have been an endurance prospect) 2) any way to determine if it is acquired or genetic (should have been a future breeding stallion) Here are pictures: |
Moderator: DrO |
Posted on Tuesday, Jul 6, 2010 - 9:41 pm: Hello Lisa,I don't think the breeder is being honest with you or else he is not a good judge of conformation. The toe probably broke from the a attempt by the farrier to increase toe length and creating a large flare. Both the horn of the wall at the toe and the radiographic changes of the coffin bone changes suggest to me that this is a long standing problem. Note the dorsal deformation of the tip of the coffin bone on the left side compared with the normal hoof coffin bone. This did not happen in the last two months. To answer your direct questions: 1) correction will require surgery and there is a guarded prognosis for correction. 2) look at lots of other foals from the parents of this breeding. If it shows up in others consider it is genetic. DrO |
Member: juliem |
Posted on Wednesday, Jul 7, 2010 - 3:15 pm: Lisa, sorry to see the guarded prognosis for this youngster. I had the same first thought as Dr. O when looking at the radiographs--the breeder isn't being honest. Here's a pretty good article by Ric Redden that will give you some good information: https://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=11882Will the breeder take him back, since he obviously didn't have the right treatment up to this point. |
Member: lisabel |
Posted on Thursday, Jul 8, 2010 - 8:01 am: I just received the official photos taken at the breed inspections in October, 2009 when the colt was a 14 months old.-Lisa |
Member: juliem |
Posted on Thursday, Jul 8, 2010 - 10:41 am: Even in that grass you can see the angle is off. Were there any comments about it then? I hope this colt has a good outcome. What kind of weight is he in? Just wondering if over feeding would have any part in this, although it doesn't look like the "knuckling" I've seen that growing youngsters sometimes develop. What is his breeding? Good luck with this. |
Moderator: DrO |
Posted on Thursday, Jul 8, 2010 - 6:15 pm: Because we cannot tell if the leg is fully loaded and whether the heel is on the ground I would not hang my hat on the image. That said the left fore appears clubby. Not only is the hoof upright there is the slightest hint of carpal flexion, a common appearance with flexor contracture.DrO |
Member: lisabel |
Posted on Friday, Jul 9, 2010 - 1:25 am: Here are both of the inspection photos I received. The inspections are done on the farm so apparently he wasn't "shined up".The colt doesn't appear over at the knee now, but if he was showing carpal flexion then, is it typically something you see during the development phase of DDFT contracture? Does that swing the verdict one way or the other about whether the foot is due to genetics or an environmental cause? |
Member: canderso |
Posted on Friday, Jul 9, 2010 - 4:22 pm: Lisa,Do you have a copy of the inspection report? If not, I wonder if the breeder is not being honest with you about more than just his foot... Cheryl |
Moderator: DrO |
Posted on Friday, Jul 9, 2010 - 7:02 pm: I disagree he is very slightly over the knee in both cases and the new image reinforces the idea it was clubby then. Taking your questions in order:1) Not always 2) To assume this is not congenital means you have to believe the owner, owner's veterinarian, and owner's farrier did not notice the upright hoof and do all they could to get the heel back down. I guess that is possible.... DrO |
Member: canderso |
Posted on Friday, Jul 9, 2010 - 8:37 pm: Are those pictures of him as a foal at the 2008 Rare Breeds Expo?https://www.abounaderphoto.com/2008-Festivale-of-Endangered/Galindar-Akhal-Teke-F oal/5935884_BEeb7/1/369775400_nQwGF#369775086_nMx8B |
Member: lisabel |
Posted on Saturday, Jul 10, 2010 - 2:57 am: Hi Dr. O,I didn't mean to say that he was not over at the knee in the grading pictures. I totally agree that he clearly is. I meant that now, July 2010, he is no longer over at the knee Too bad the hoof didn't resolve itself as well. |