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Discussion on 1st time tying up
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natalya
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Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2013 - 2:08 pm:
We bought a registered appaloosa 5 month ago. Previous place have her for about 6 months she never experience of episode of tying up. This Sunday we went to our regular lessons. She was properly warmed up at a walk then continued with a trot. After several minutes of trotting she was asked to gallop in a circle. Then after about a 2 min my daughter noticed that she put her head down very low and something was off. She get off and horse was trembling and stiff as a rock everywhere, front, back, but mostly her rump. We took her out of arena. Our trainer said it’s tying up. We never experience this kind of condition so she called vet. Vet didn’t respond right away so we called one of race horse owner. And since it was hot day he said to hose her down. When we hose her for about 1 min her front legs stiffened up so bad, we thud she will lose footing. We stopped housing and give her 1000lb benamin and send for ace(calming shot) she was giving it about 30 min after. She right away relaxed completely but still has trouble walking normal. WE let her rest free in arena she was walking after wile but not much. So we wait about an hour before we put her in a trailer. Went home ok (she doesn’t travel well) she was happy at home, looking pretty much normal but her pee turned kind of darker then usual. We didn’t have a chance to see her pee again, so don’t know what color its now, will keep watching. So anyway I read the article about rehabilitation. She is turned out most of the day, but has to keep her in stall over night do to dogs problem. My daughter was start exercised her just bareback on a walk only for about 15 min (she was lame on a front leg drugging her toe very noticeable). We quit walking, I sought as long we move her a little bit it was ok. Today she was still sore. I can't afford vet Wright now, but if I absolutely have to I will, my question is it normal for horse after this kind of episode of tying up be so sore and lame? She is on a lean side. She is on a 2 lb of Purina senior edge in the evening along with timothy/orchard hay and about 8lb of Bermuda alfalfa pallets. Lunch hay only, morning pellets only. We asked a vet if she need preventive shot for tying up he said he don’t think so, but its a good lesson for us to keep exercising performance horses regularly. And keep her moving. We didn’t know she was lame at that time. So what will be suggestion in this situation about exercising her and how? Thank you
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DrO
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Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 - 8:33 am:
Hello Natalya,
No I don't think that type lameness is typical following a tying up episode. I would recommend you have a veterinarian look at it. As to exercise recommendations that will depend on the cause of the lameness but for minimizing further tying up episodes we give guidelines in the article associated with this area. Look under the Prevention topic for the Exercise subtopic.
DrO
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natalya
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Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 - 10:58 am:
Thank you Dr.O. I did read your article and trying to follow it. Yesterday she has milled episode of tying up again, but recover very quickly. It’s happening during exercise. We mostly walking and we add about 2 min trotting then she tied up. And drugging her hind leg a little bit but no lameness she puts weight on it fine. I’m calling vet today. Thanks again.
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natalya
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Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 - 4:05 pm:
Vet can't see us till Wednesday. For now he suggests to change her diet and 1g bute 2 a day no senior, instead use Purina Ultium and corn oil like you suggested. Very light exercise. Thanks
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natalya
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Posted on Monday, Nov 18, 2013 - 11:02 am:
Hi guys, its being 6 month since our episode of tying up, it never happened again and she is doing very good. Our vet checked her, he think if its happened again we should considered to test her for EPSM. But for now just keep exercised regularly no sugar or starch. I have a question, she is a barrel horse and I need to perked up a little, she doesn't run her full. She is on Bermuda alfalfa pellet 2 a day and about 2lb of Purina Ultium ( has 0 starch or carb)and corn oil, timothy hay at lunch or grass pasture. Vet suggested before add rice bran too, but we never did she is in a good weight. Do you think rice bran will add some energy to her or what else can I use safely. Thanks
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DrO
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Posted on Saturday, Nov 23, 2013 - 4:16 pm:
Considering your vets concerns with a possible diagnosis of EPSM and the effect of carbohydrates the rice bran is worth a try however if she is in good weight additional nutritional energy is not likely to have an effect. A continued training program aimed at getting a full run is more likely to be beneficial.
DrO
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natalya
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Posted on Monday, Nov 25, 2013 - 9:59 am:
Thank you DrO. Will do.
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Member:
natalya
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Posted on Tuesday, Dec 3, 2013 - 9:56 am:
Ok, now I have another question. We added rice bran for about a week now, she doesn't like it. And most of the time, especially during breakfast, she won't touch her grain at all because of rice bran. I cut her down on a pellets to give her chance get more hungry and eat her grain, didn't work. Over night she will finish all of her food. Do you think it going to be the same result in her case if I double up of Purina Ultium with corn oil without the Rice bran instead? Or give two scoops Purina morning with oil and one of each at night along with oil? I'm kind of reluctant to play with her diet too much, she had episode of colic before. What's the best feeding program would be? originally vet suggested one scoop each with corn oil. Basically I will give the same products just different combination, but she will get one feeding less of rice bran. She did perked up a lot. Thanks
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DrO
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Posted on Thursday, Dec 5, 2013 - 5:19 pm:
Hello Natalya,
One way to approach this type problem is to reduce the amount of rice bran to an amount she will eat then once she is eating that well for a few days slowly increase the amount.
DrO
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natalya
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Posted on Friday, Dec 6, 2013 - 6:09 pm:
Thank you, I'll start doing this, see if its helps, make sense thou.
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