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Posted on Saturday, Jul 15, 2000 - 7:53 am:

Hello Dr. O,
I am very interested in getting detailed information on the article from the University of Texas, Large Animal Centre, on the treatment by formalin of ethmoid haematoma of a number of horses. However, I can't get the link to link, and wonder how I can get the detailed article?

I did search and find the e-mail address of the principal of the Veterinary section, and asked him by e-mail how this could be done - but no reply, and that was over a week ago.

My horse has been treated twice now with an injection of formalin. The first one was okay but the second one was a disaster, with the formalin either missing the tumour and going into the tissue, or too much formalin going in and the excess seeping out into healthy tissue, causing him what appeared to be severe pain and excessive agitation. He was circling non-stop in the stable, throwing himself down, diarrhoea, rubbing his face against anything and everything. Very distressing, and this went on for 4 days.

The vets have never done this before, and to me it is being done in a totally hit and miss, unscientific manner. Stick the needle in and inject and hope for the best. The senior vet agreed that this reaction was no doubt the formalin, but offered no excuses or suggestions to prevent it in the future. He felt my horse was "depressed" and should perhaps have some homeopathic medicine to cheer him up!!!!

I hope if I can get the detailed article, it might teach my vets something and show them the way to do this properly. If I can't get more information, I think I have to stop the treatment because I can't put my horse through this added trauma. This is not good, as he needs treatment and it seems to have been proved that these formalin treatments work.

I would be grateful if you could help me to obtain the detailed article.

Alexa

Posted on Wednesday, Jul 19, 2000 - 11:58 am:

With Dr. O being away, is there anyone who could help me with my previous post of July 15th?

I have cancelled the vet's visit which was due 18th July, and put it off till 25th July hoping I would be able to get the detailed article - but now I have to either take a chance and let them inject him on 25th, or put it off again until 2nd August.

Any help from anyone would be appreciated.

Posted on Wednesday, Jul 19, 2000 - 10:51 pm:

What was the link he gave you? I don't see it in the message thread.

Nancy

Posted on Thursday, Jul 20, 2000 - 12:32 am:

Alexa, was this the article you are looking for?

"Bleeding from the Nose: Epistaxis in Horses" by Dr. O

Although I didn't see anything concerning Texas in it, it did tell how it was done. If it is then go back up to : Nose Bleeds: Epistaxis and click on it. Then click on the article.

Posted on Thursday, Jul 20, 2000 - 4:24 am:

Perhaps I am being dim [always very possible!], but I thought one could click on the article heading of the particular veterinary report in which one was interested, and get the detail. But it doesn't work.

I want the details of the 4th report down under Dr. O's introduction under Nose Bleeds : Epistaxis, i.e.

Vet Surg 1998 May-Jun;27(3):175-81
Transendoscopic chemical ablation of progressive ethmoidal hematomas in standing horses.

Schumacher J, Yarbrough T, Pascoe J, Woods P, Meagher D, Honnas C

Department of Large Animal Medicine and Surgery, Texas Veterinary Medical Center, College of Veterinary Medicine, College Station, USA.

Nothing works - there is nowhere to "click".
This is my problem.

Thanks

Posted on Thursday, Jul 20, 2000 - 10:08 am:

Alexa, I have found the article at the American College of Veterinary Surgery, but it looks like that is the whole detailed article. Here is the site where I found it.

https://vetsurg.wbsaunders.com/abs/abs27_3/v27n3p175.html

Posted on Thursday, Jul 20, 2000 - 11:28 am:

I looked at the page your talking about and there's definitely no link to the article; however, I noticed the university and that would be Texas A&M. You might be able to call down there and get them to fax you a copy of the article or if it's available on the internet they could tell you where.

I also did a search on yahoo and got the following results:

SCHUMACHER ET AL
... Transendoscopic Chemical Ablation of Progressive Ethmoidal Hematomas in Standing Horses JIM...
https://vetsurg.wbsaunders.com/abs/abs27_3/v27n3p175.html [More results from vetsurg.wbsaunders.com]

Table of Contents - May, 1998
...175 Transendoscopic Chemical Ablation of Progressive...
... Ethmoidal Hematomas in Standing Horses Jim...
https://vetsurg.wbsaunders.com/previous/toc27_3.html

Dr. James Schumacher
....: Transendoscopic chemical ablation of progressive ethmoidal hematomas in standing horses. Vet Surg...
https://www.vetmed.auburn.edu/~schumja/

Publications
...al. Transendoscopic Chemical Ablation of Progressive Ethmoidal Hematomas in Standing Horses. Veterinary...
https://www.cvm.okstate.edu/research/reports/1998_report/publications.html


Hope that helps!
Nancy

Posted on Thursday, Jul 20, 2000 - 1:40 pm:

Nancy and Linda,
Thank you both so much for the links and information. I have gone through to them all and the exact wording in Dr. O's article is reproduced. Another member of this site has also been very kind and helpful and we have jointly and severally discovered that one can get a print out through international libraries and she is helping me to try and get it through CISTI. Now we just have to see if one gets a really detailed report, with all the research details which is what I want, or the same "synopsis" as in Dr. O's article.

I really appreciate your help.

Many thanks again,
Alexa

Posted on Friday, Jul 21, 2000 - 12:41 am:

You're welcome Alexa :) I hope you find all the information that you are seeking, and that you're baby is back to normal in no time! :)
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