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Penner

Posted on Friday, Jul 11, 2003 - 9:20 pm:

Just an update on Xxterra (on my Labrador dog) - I know this is a horse forum but I was amazed at this substance (& I am a rather skeptical herbal medicine person).
Anyway, this dog has been plagued by tumors on his feet since 3yo (he is 10yo now). At 3 we had surgery on this tumor & the biopsy showed epidermoid cyst. The surgery lasted a few months then it kept coming back & would wax & wane but not too bad. Last year it got bad again, so we had surgery again on it. This time tho - the biopsy showed a phemphigus type lesion. & the surgery didn't last too long - kept coming back, wax & wane - but more severely this time. We did not put this dog on steroids even tho this seemed autoimmune as he has had coccidioidomycosis 2x & is on chronic ketoconazole.

1 month ago, it really got out of hand (it swells up suddenly, then bleeds) & that day my dog chewed it seemed about 1/2 of his medial innermost toe off from the nail back (the 1 with the "tumor"). In reality it was probably the tumor, which had replaced normal tissue. No bone showing however. The "stump" was about 1" x 1" tho.
I was kind of desparate as the surgery again is expensive, & didn't last long anyway.

I tried just keeping the chewed off area clean & bandaging & antibiotics for 3 weeks, but the thing seemed to grow back anyway & it was a bloody, messy stump.
So the vet suggested we try this (she had never used it on a dog either). Unbelievable! In 10 days it has shrunk to dime size! I don't know anything in human medicine that works on wounds so quickly!

What is/ was really on my dog's foot this time around, I don't know, as I didn't have a biopsy done this time - but it sure acted like a tumor as it was growing over the last 3 weeks, before we used Xxterra. Just a (amazing to me) FYI. :-)
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DrO

Posted on Saturday, Jul 12, 2003 - 5:56 am:

I saw it successfully used on a sarcoid about an inch across, on the chest but it did cause a whale of a reaction, followed by a sore that was very slow to heal, and now a large flat scar: but one year later no recurrence. I have seen a case where the sarcoid did reoccur with its use.
DrO
Member:
Leslies

Posted on Friday, Jul 18, 2003 - 11:04 pm:

My gelding had a sarcoid on his upper/inner back leg- right were his legs rub together. The vet said he needed to have surgery to remove it. The tumor was about the sixe of a tennis ball. The vet said that he thought that the area would not heal well though due to the rubbing. I did not fell comfortable with the surgery due to the location so I was thinking about what to do. I went to the Rolex at the Kentucky Horse Park, and was looking at Hilton Herbs. The sales person asked what I was looking for and I told her something that would remove a tennisball sized sarcoid. She told me to try Phytobalm. The rest is history. The area did become red and puffy, and the hair came off the normal area surrounding the sarcoid that the stuff got on, and his other leg by the rub area, but the sarcoid went away! When the vet was out next, he couldn't believe that it was gone. The hair has since grown back, and you would never know it was there. I have also used it on his nose with the same results. I think it has tea tree oil, and some other stuff in it. Good Luck, Leslie
Member:
Ama431

Posted on Monday, Oct 25, 2004 - 5:40 am:

Dear Jaime, The Indian-Mud and Xxterra are one in the same according to other web-sites. There is a very, very interesting set of pictures(23 over 107 days) where some-one has had amazing results with Xxterra on a Peri-orbital sarcoid on a 2 1/2 year old Shetty. I found it by accident and it describes in great detail what she did. She had to have extreme guts to continue when it looked so bad...but they often seem to take four months. I have also heard that Wheatgrass spray is very good when the sarcoids have sloughed off.
It was a Yahoo!Geocities:Care site...they were amazing in their anecdotal detail. Even sometimes taking two pictures on the one day.
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