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Discussion on Clean trax
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Kthorse
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Posted on Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 - 2:11 pm:
Hi I was wondering who has used this product and how you liked it. Also what did you use to soak the hoofs in. They say not to use an open bucket or even soaker boots. I dont really want to buy there boots if I dont have to. I have no inner tire tubes either.
Thanks Katrina
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Tmb2006
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Posted on Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 - 10:20 pm:
Dear Katrina,
I read your post this evening. I have used CleanTrax on my 25 year old gelding who suffers from chronic laminitis/hoof abscesses. This product worked like nothing else that I've done over the years.
My vet placed an empty IV fluid bad (tough, thick plastic)over my horse's foot, filled the bag with the CleanTrax, ducktaped the top of the bag shut around his lower leg so the fluid wouldn't leak out and finally wrapped the whole foot, bag & all in Vetwrap. My horse stood in his stall for two hours until we removed it.
I hadn't heard that you couldn't use it with a "soaking boot" - make sure there isn't any metal involved. I have a new soaking boot that I bought through SmartPak that I'm going to use next time.
Good Luck!
Theresa
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Suzeb
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Posted on Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 - 11:21 pm:
Well....Katrina,
If you want to use such a product, you must follow the instructions in order for Clean Trax to work.
I have never used this product personally, but you might want to have a look at this post;
There is something about the long soak and then the fumes going to work, in which case you would need some sort of closed environment; ie. a soaking boot or a carefully fashioned inner tube.
Good Luck!
Susan B.
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Npennh
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Posted on Thursday, Aug 3, 2006 - 12:53 am:
Theresa,
Was the horse whose feet you soaked shod? Is it Ok to use on a shod horse or must they be barefoot for the full effect?
Natalie
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Erika
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Posted on Thursday, Aug 3, 2006 - 9:49 am:
I just used Clean Trax last week, or nearly two weeks ago, actually on my filly with a terrible crack that wouldn't grow out.
We used the tall soaking boot that is recommended by the company. It is a pain because you have to stand there for 45 minutes holding the strap on the top of the bag so it doesn't fall down.
My barefoot trimmer said that since you are supposed to use a gallon of the Clean Trax fluid you need a large volume soaker, and the height of it is supposed to add pressure to help the fluid penetrate all areas of the hoof. Don't know the physics of that, but I know that my regular soaking boot wouldn't hold nearly the volume that this one did.
I think you could improvise very easily. Try using a Compactor bag (Not contractor bag) made for garbage compactors. They are much thicker and less likely to leak. Duct tape around the pastern, cannon, knee, etc. until you get above the knee. Then pour in the stuff. You will still have to hold the top though, because if the horse picks up his foot it will shift. It will also help to be on a rubber mat so the horse doesn't pop the bag when moving.
So far, with extra trims, my filly's foot looks better than I could have hoped. I have another thread going on about my experience "White line and crack in hoof". I will post result pictures in a few days.
But to me it looks like the stuff works! My barefoot trimmer swears by it. I know you go barefoot, too. What is it in New Jersey this year that I am hearing about so many hoof problems?
Hope it works for you, Katrina.
Erika
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Tmb2006
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Posted on Thursday, Aug 3, 2006 - 9:27 pm:
For Natalie,
Yes, for CleanTrax to work, the horse can't be shod. The metal of the shoe somehow inactivates the chemicals in CleanTrax.
I have to wait until my horse's scheduled farrier visits to have his shoe removed, then I soak it for 20 minutes while my farrier finishes trimming his other three feet.
Give it a try! Good Luck!
Theresa
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Banthony
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Posted on Friday, Aug 4, 2006 - 11:06 am:
I used Clean Trax last night. It is a production! I used a heavy duty kitchen garbage bag which unfortunately turned out not to be heavy enough. The bag punctured when she moved her foot after 30 minutes. But we left the bag on for the fumes for another hour.
This morning the mare is showing relief after 7 days of almost 3-legged lameness. She popped an abscess from her coronet band that is running puss. I don't know whether it was the Clean Trax or just the long soak.
Whatever, it's great to see this mare better.
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Npennh
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Posted on Sunday, Nov 5, 2006 - 4:53 pm:
I finally bought 2 large soaking boots, and 6 bottles of Clean Trax. I have used it twice, both times having the shoes pulled the night before re-shoeing, so the hoof was bare for the soak. I used one bottle/ 1 gallon of warm water per boot for 60 minutes, then put the wet foot in a heavy plastic bag, taped at the ankle, and an old Mac boot on that. I turned him back out in the paddock for another few hours for the fumes to work.The gelding's feet are now keeping their tight white line connected lower than the previous place, where the toe would always "slipper". I think this stuff really works, and I have now only a small 1 inch toe flair, that will be grown out soon. This gelding had wall separation but no coffin bone rotation when I bought him. He has been correctly balanced and shod for 3 years, with the toe flair removed, and a short normal toe in the shoe. Only the Clean Trax has made the lower 1/2 of his foot grow out with the lamina attached tightly as it should be, and no more slipper toe, or toe cracks. Great stuff, and it was not hard to do either. I am using it every 6 weeks until the foot looks normal after trimming. I wish i did it 3 years ago, but it sounded like a big hassle. It is fairly easy actually.
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Kthorse
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Posted on Tuesday, Nov 7, 2006 - 7:17 am:
I found a product called Clorpactin WCS-90.It is Sodium oxychlorosene. It comes in 2oz bottles and has the same mixing directions as clean trax. Clean Trax is oxychlorosine. So I don't know if its the same thing. They both are able to penetrate the foot without damaging healthy tissue. It does the exact same thing as clean trax. I really think its the same thing. It is anti fungal bacterial and will kill the spores. Killing the spores is the main thing as other products like iodine do not do that. It is a human version and extremely safe .You can get it from your pharmacy . They might have to order it. Non prescription. It is $22. for 4 or 5 bottles. If you do a search you will find out more about this product. It is used on hooves and has better results than most products. I hope this helps someone as clean trax is expensive.
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Kthorse
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Posted on Tuesday, Nov 7, 2006 - 2:28 pm:
Hi again . I just wanted to clarify my last post. The mixing directions are not the same. The bottles come in 2 gram sizes and are mixed with a litre. It smells and looks exactly like clean trax.. The active ingredient is active clorine derived from calcium hypochlorite 3-4% available clorine 6-8 %. Its PH is that of skin and hoof which is why it is non damaging to healthy tissue. Clean trax I believe is made from the same active ingredients. It says on the box Topical Bioicide, Bactericide-Viricide-fungicde-sporicide.
One other thing it says best used fresh but can be refrigerated for up to 14 days. I wonder if you could do that with Clean Trax. I am sure they would say no because they want you to buy more product.
Dr O do you know anything about this product?
Katrina
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DrO
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Posted on Wednesday, Nov 8, 2006 - 7:46 am:
Oxychlorosene has been around human medicine for many years and has many desirable properties for treating hoof horn infections that involve sensitive tissue. However it is not clearly better than povidone (Betadine) which is much cheaper and easier to handle. It is probably not as good as formaldehyde for WLD or thrush that does not involve sensitive tissue. However I do not know of any clear comparisons so concede this remains open to question.
One thing I wonder about is that you say that it has an ability to penetrate the horn yet many of the references says it is only indicated for infections that it can come into direct contact with.
DrO
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Kthorse
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Posted on Wednesday, Nov 8, 2006 - 8:20 am:
Dr O,
A few of the web sites that I went to stated that it had the ability to penetrate. I really do not know if this is a fact. I should have stated that. They say that Clean Trax also has the ability to penetrate.
Katrina
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martina
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Posted on Saturday, Aug 29, 2009 - 11:17 am:
For additional information see the very bottom of the article posted at
https://www.horseshoes.com/advice/whitelinedisease/dunivant2/dunivant2.htm
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kpaint
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Posted on Tuesday, Apr 13, 2010 - 8:26 pm:
Hmmm. for those of you who were following my comments from the Lounge/General Interest Stories/Back from Equine Affaire in Ohio with Observations:
I did a HA search for Clean Trax and found this older discussion. Interesting.
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npennh
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Posted on Tuesday, Apr 13, 2010 - 8:49 pm:
Well...7 years after the last post i am going to guess at the penetration. I bought these very tall soaking boots, and you have to mix it up in the 1 gallon per foot with the clean trax. I let it soak 90 minutes on both front feet. I am wondering if the water is so high in the boot, it is causing the solution to go up into the tubules?
7 years later, after the initial 6 soaks every 6 weeks, the horse is fine..no more wall separation, seedy toe or anything unusual, and shod and ridden like a normal horse.
The clean trax sounded like such a hassle, and the boot too...but it was not at all. I just tied him to his feeder/stall wall wearing the boots, after his hoof was trimmed while the farrier worked on other horses..then he shod this gelding.
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kpaint
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Posted on Tuesday, Apr 13, 2010 - 11:10 pm:
Thanks Natalie! When I ordered the Clean Trax I also ordered the boots offered on the IEAP website. They were 30 bucks apiece I think but if they are nice and heavy and don't rip then it will be worth it--I won't waste the Clean Trax when the boot is ripped! Dr. Fox was adamant about the amount of water--don't use less than the directions. Something about the physics of it all... So glad to hear you had success and continue good hoof health! Hope it works as well for me. I don't foresee a problem tying for the soaking--although Dr. Fox said the new boots are secure and I could let the horse walk around in the dry lot even. I'll probably opt for tied. He can busy himself with a tightly woven hay net for hours... Thanks for posting after such a long time. 
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gramsey1
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Posted on Wednesday, Apr 14, 2010 - 11:07 am:
We had very good success with the product only mixed half a batch. Soaked in a bucket.
Since then, on another horse, we used White Lighting Gel with a duct tape boot. It worked equally as good.
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kpaint
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Posted on Wednesday, Apr 14, 2010 - 1:00 pm:
Thanks Guy. I've never heard of WLGel. I look it up.
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ladycfp
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Posted on Friday, Jul 23, 2010 - 5:53 pm:
I am using this product for the first time in the next week. I read about it here and elsewhere first. Received a shipment from Valley Vet (also ordered the boot) and the box was not marked to refrigerate so it sat in the car all day in the hot sun. The box then came home to the horse corner in the garage where it was opened after another day. At that time, I noted it was packed in a freezer pack. Which was no longer cold, much less frozen. I called Valley Vet and they confirm it needs refrigeration. They are sending me another shipment. Great customer service. Sharing this for those that come next, filed under Things I Wish I'd Known!
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vickiann
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Posted on Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 - 5:42 pm:
That is good to know about Valley Vet and the Clean Trax.
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gramsey1
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Posted on Sunday, Apr 6, 2014 - 9:03 am:
this is the active ingredient in Clean Trax. https://www.u-g.com/pinfo/wcs-90%20booklet.PDF
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gramsey1
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Posted on Sunday, Apr 6, 2014 - 9:13 am:
This is an overview of the active ingredient in Grand Circuit's White Lightning https://www.grandcircuitinc.com/sites/default/files/Howard%20Alliger%20-%20An%20O verall%20View%20Cl02.pdf
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