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  Discussion on "Black as Knight"
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Member:
twhgait

Posted on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 - 7:52 pm:

Has anyone tried this product? I have a fading black mare that I would like to show in model this year. I was told this stuff will make a fading/red/burnt coat black within a month.
Member:
albionsh

Posted on Wednesday, May 9, 2007 - 10:08 am:

Hi Kim. I just went through my first 3 pound cannister of this product, and I really like the results. My Bolder is still has brown highlights in the sun, but he is much darker than he was. I really like how shiny he is--even though some of the change is a normal result of spring shedding. I don't see it as making a seal brown horse become true black, but it is a great improvement anyway.
New Member:
mcharles

Posted on Wednesday, May 9, 2007 - 11:09 am:

I have used Black as Knight for several years now and have been extremely happy with the results. We even use it on chestnuts and it gives them a deep color and none of them fade in the sun. It doesn't make a coat black, it enhances their natural color.
Member:
erika

Posted on Wednesday, May 9, 2007 - 7:06 pm:

My trainer says the Arab show folks use human hair dye in "Blue-black" to keep their faders black. Somehow I would have thought there'd be rules about dying hair, no? (Kinda would like to see a flaxen mane and tail on my boring old chestnut...hmmm...or maybe temporary bay..?)

I did use Quickblack shampoo last year. Successfully made my hands a deep dark purple--did nothing for the horse.

I do love how black and shiny my Cleo is in spring. Wish it would last. Maybe I will try some Black as Knight.
Member:
twhgait

Posted on Wednesday, May 9, 2007 - 7:57 pm:

Wonderful to hear the great reports, Thanks Everyone! I'll give it a shot. She's one of those blacks that fades to a dark, dark brown. Reading the reviews in the magazine, it sounds like just what she needs. My vet laughed when I told him to write "black" on the Coggins paper .

LOL Erika!! I could make all sorts of interesting colors out of my chestnut! That same place also sells a black henna for "quick touchups", but I think I'll pass on that!

One other thing....I was reading the ingredients and wondering how your horses like this stuff? Royal is a very, very picky eater...anything strange in her grain and she's not gonna touch it. I'm worried there's some stuff in there that's going to turn her off right away!
Member:
mrose

Posted on Wednesday, May 9, 2007 - 8:22 pm:

Erika, it is against the rules to dye your horse's hair (Arabian) if you are showing, unless the rules have recently changed.
Member:
dres

Posted on Wednesday, May 9, 2007 - 8:35 pm:

If you are showing make sure the ingrediants are legal for show..

On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with spots..
Member:
erika

Posted on Wednesday, May 9, 2007 - 8:42 pm:

Sara, I had a feeling that was the case. I know that this woman trains a lot of show horses. Hope she's not cheatin'!

Kim, I've had more than one person tell me in August that I have a very pretty liver chestnut ("But she's black!, no really, she's black!")LOL!
Member:
jgordo03

Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 2:11 pm:

Kim,
Will you take a look at the ingredients? I belive that most of it is paprika! My grandmother always feed her dark horses paprika and it really did enhance their coat color.
Member:
chance1

Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 2:30 pm:

Hi, I was told about the paprika, too. I've tried it and it seems to work. It's MUCH cheaper in bulk than buying the "horse" product with the paprika in it. My horse also bleaches out, both summer and winter.
Member:
erika

Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 6:47 pm:

Do you find that the horses will eat it readily?

Mine eat barely enough grain to get down their hoof supplement. I wonder how much paprika I could get them to eat.

How much for an effect? How often? Where do you find paprika in bulk?
Member:
twhgait

Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 7:17 pm:

Oh, Royal will NEVER eat Paprika! She is sooo picky; anything different in her grain and she's not gonna touch it!

So paprika, huh? It's too late. I already ordered it! I guess I'll have to go buy applesauce again...
Moderator:
DrO

Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 8:04 pm:

We have discussed the use of paprika for blackening and reddening before, put paprika in the search engine.
DrO
New Member:
wendy291

Posted on Monday, Feb 1, 2010 - 9:52 am:

I used Black as Knight for one month and it really deepened the color on my red bay. The following month I fed plain paprika instead (much cheaper) with the same result.
Member:
maggienm

Posted on Monday, Feb 1, 2010 - 10:06 am:

Wendy, how much paprika did you feed?
New Member:
wendy291

Posted on Monday, Feb 1, 2010 - 10:24 am:

It was several years ago so I don't remember exactly, but I know I used the same amount of plain paprika as I was using of the Black as Knight. I'm sorry I can't remember how many scoops or whatever it was, but I just followed the directions on the BAK container and then used the same amount of paprika, which I bought at Sam's.
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