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Discussion on Experience of Banamine toxicitiy in geriatric unthrifty colicked horses?
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ekaufman
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Posted on Thursday, Oct 18, 2007 - 12:12 pm:
I read the article, and am looking for post-facto advice. My elderly neighbors' unthrifty 32 year-old POA mare colicked on Monday. They can't afford a vet, but called me to help.
To me she seemed impacted (turned out to be right). Elevated respiration, almost no gut sounds, sweating, slow cap. refill, and seemed somewhat dehydrated and quite uncomfortable though not thrashing. No thermometer available.
I put her in a goat pen, gave her a mess (literally) of mineral oil + water orally by syringe, and gatorade (not ideal, but all there was and they were so upset). She eventually passed a mat of some weird fibrous who-knows-what coated with the oil, and is back in her field today.
Here is my question-- I had a tube of banamine, but didn't dare give her any, because I was afraid that she might not be able to handle it liver/kidney-wise. Dr. O, have you ever seen a case of banamine toxicity from one dose to an ancient unthrifty horse? I know you can't see her, but I'm wondering whether I left her in pain on good odds or microscopic odds? I have a feeling this may come up again....
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DrO
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Posted on Thursday, Oct 18, 2007 - 1:28 pm:
Well Elizabeth, the short answer is no, though I have treated unthrifty elderly horses with Banamine I have never had a toxic consequence. I might go as low as half a dose in such horses and if clinically dehydrated give fluids which will be protective. It is hard to estimate risk and certainly has to be done on a case by case basis. The decision to not give it when you are uncertain is a good one.
DrO
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