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Discussion on How do you deliver the 150mg Ranitidine tabs into the horse
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jones
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Posted on Thursday, Dec 3, 2009 - 10:47 pm:
Hi Dr.O.
Im going to do a trial of Ranitdine for my horse for suspected ulcers. He only eats well if I give him U-guard, has had low grade colic, low energy.
What is the best way to get him to ingest 20, 150 mg pills 4 times a day?
Thanks,
Lesley
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DrO
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Posted on Friday, Dec 4, 2009 - 8:55 pm:
Hello jones,
I would melt them in the smallest amount of water it takes to create a paste, and then pick it up in the smallest amount of sticky substance, like yogurt, mix thoroughly then place this in a large (60ml) catheter tipped syringe. I would do all 4 for the next day at one time then if possible refrigerate them.
Then again after reading the article on Ulcers you may want to think twice about its use. It is not near as effective as omeprazole in long term studies, see »Diseases of Horses » Colic, Diarrhea, GI Tract » Gastric Ulcers » Gastric Ulcers in Adult Horses.
DrO
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jones
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Posted on Friday, Dec 4, 2009 - 9:11 pm:
I have read the article. I can afford this treatment for now. Costco has 184 pills (150mg) for $8.59. Thats $3.80 a day.. as long as it works, then we are good.
Would there be any harm/benefit in keeping him on the drug for 3 months instead of 2 months if its not as potent/effective. I will be giving him Smart Gut and aloe juice as well, to hopefully speed healing.
He has been yawning every morning when I have gotten him up in the past week. I started him last night on the Raitndine(I put the pills in his feed but I can't do that 4 times a day)
He did not yawn this morning and seems way more interested in his food. It seems to at least be giving him symptom relief.
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txgf
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Posted on Sunday, Dec 6, 2009 - 12:31 am:
Lesley,
I use a small coffee grinder to crush tablets. It turns the ranitidine to powder! Works like a charm and takes about 3 seconds.
Then I mix with something tasty and put in the feed.
So far so good.
ps.
the coffee grinder cost $20. The best money ever spent. Never again will I have to crush, squash, or dissolve tablets  .
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DrO
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Posted on Sunday, Dec 6, 2009 - 9:18 am:
jones, I have not seen any work on a 3 month treatment so cannot answer your question but since we do see beneficial effects with its use I would expect continued improvement.
DrO
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jones
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Posted on Sunday, Dec 6, 2009 - 7:41 pm:
Thanks TXGF & Dr.O
I have been dissolving the pills and then putting them in yogurt, that stuff tastes horrible. Do horses have taste buds that sense bitter?
I was thinking of getting a pill crusher but I have been wanting a coffee grinder for flax seeds so I may just have to go and get one!
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digger89
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Posted on Sunday, Dec 6, 2009 - 7:49 pm:
Jones, I bought 75 mg tablets for my guy at Sam's Club (like Costco)and just threw all 40 in with his sweet feed. He gobbled them down, never even picked up his head. Don't know if your horse is as greedy as mine though Sarah
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digger89
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Posted on Sunday, Dec 6, 2009 - 7:50 pm:
I meant to add that I divided his 2 meals/day into 4 equal size meals. Sarah
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rhosalin
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Posted on Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 - 6:51 pm:
Hi Dr. O:
I have read the article on Ulcers and am currently treating my 4 year old TB for ulcers. She is a very nervous horse, takes a bite of grain runs out of the barn to look for the buggyman then back in the barn for another bite. Over and over... She stands in deep snow, rain or sleet... She will not come into the nice barn with a 12x16 stall and a 12x16 overhang for cover in the worst weather. She is spooky and unpredictable temperment undersaddle (rearing, shaking her head, startling, balking and shaking like she is trying to get a fly off of her then taking off). She is has her own 3 acre paddock off her her stall with another horse next to her with the same stall pasture situation. This is open for her 24/7. She is free fed Timothy hay on top of that and fresh water 24/7. She is fed Grow N win which is a very low carb mineral supplement. Her coat is straggly - similar to a terrier dog - wiry and dull. She is blanketed with a hood due to her stupidly standing in the elements which causes her to be soaked to the bone and shiver.
She has a cushy life here but she is not happy about something. I got her from a TB breeder because she "wouldn't run". She was very thin, severe hoof abscesses from standing in knee deep manure/muck. Now that is is on a good diet she is faster than Secretariat!
I started her on Ranitidine to see if it was her stomach and she came to the barn and finished her grain without running back out to the pasture. She is two weeks into it and she is back to her old behavior of running in and out and acting like there is a bear on the other side of the fence. So I started the Ulcergard......
My question is: I have the 40 tubes to treat her BUT what in the heck do I do after treatment? I don't want to blow this 1000.00 to have the ulcers return. Obviously she is stressed about something here and I am not planning of building a new facility for her. I also don't want to spend 225.00 a month on Ulcergard to maintain her. Will Ranitidine work post Ulcergard? Maybe these ulcers were from her past home and are just worse now???
Denise Bryant
www.BryantFarm.com
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DrO
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Posted on Thursday, Jan 27, 2011 - 1:33 pm:
Welcome Denise,
I believe we can help you with your question but let me get you started off right so you can get the best answer as quick as possible.
You will get more responses if you start your own discussion rather than post at the bottom on another member's discussion. Each discussion is "owned" by the original poster and all replies in that discussion should either directly or indirectly address the concerns of the original poster.
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DrO
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