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Discussion on Friesian Foal due in May !!
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New Member:
annm
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Posted on Friday, Feb 27, 2009 - 2:38 am:
Hi, I have a 7 year old Friesian Mare (Dior) that is due to foal the first part of May. I was wondering if there are other HA members that have experience with foaling Friesians. Dior was AI with frozen semen from Holland and I found out how different the breed is to inseminate. Any information or advice would be appreciated!
Thanks - Ann
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dres
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Posted on Friday, Feb 27, 2009 - 10:19 am:
Ann I have a gal friend that breeds Friesians.. From what she has said.. is that the mares seem to be more sneaky then her WB mares, and that retaining the placenta is more common in them then in the WB mares.. so make sure you have your oxytoxin (sp) on hand, just in case..
What are the bloodlines of the mare and sire??
good luck and post pictures..
On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with spots..
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New Member:
annm
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Posted on Friday, Feb 27, 2009 - 2:10 pm:
Thanks for the warning LOL...I am really excited about the whole process! - Dior is out of a Dutch mare by the name of Reitse and by Tsjerk 328. I found Dior on the internet and made an impulsive purchase when I noticed that she was born on my birthday (yep-meant to be). She had just been imported. The first summer I took her to the Keuring and altho I didn't even know what a Keuring was, and she went ster and won Grand Champion Mare in Oregon. Last spring I decided to go for a foal. I imported semen from Tietse 428 and after my vet and I spent MANY hours and MANY ultrasounds waiting for that darn follicle to DrOp, we have a baby on the way! Pretty exciting to say the least! I will look for a pic and post for you. Thanks for your information and interest. I hope to hear more from you..Ann
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stek
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Posted on Friday, Feb 27, 2009 - 2:32 pm:
Ann, congrats on your coming foal! I don't have any firsthand experience with Friesians and I am curious .. what was different about the insemination process than other breeds? Are there anatomical differences?
I have delivered probably 250+ foals of different breeds from TBs to minis and don't recall anything breed-specific about any of the foaling procedures, I would be interested to learn if there is something unique to this breed.
Thanks!
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paardex
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Posted on Friday, Feb 27, 2009 - 2:32 pm:
Ann my experiences with Friesians in Holland were that they often are less fertile[well that point you have passed]And retained placentas were quite common too, but as the mares were in good condition and not [like in Holland during winter is common]locked in but could walk regularly they did well, especially the last 10 years as the problems due to inbreeding subsided and the horses got less heavy, more elegant perhaps.
Before with the old lines heavy foaling problems like with drafts occurred from time to time [big foals fi] but lately I haven't heard of these problems I think she will do well! The Friesian Studbook has done a lot of work to get rid of these problems.
Good luck1
Jos
PS and please post a pic of the result?
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New Member:
annm
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Posted on Friday, Feb 27, 2009 - 3:55 pm:
Hi Shannon, From what I have been told, they can be difficult to settle. I know my mare had one foal in Holland but I have been unable to get details on her foaling. My vet and I missed her ovulation the first time. Friesians have HUGE FOLLICLES to say the least and they seem to hang on for quite a bit longer time than other breeds of horses....this leaves everyone guessing and especially since it was frozen semen, we ultrasounded her every 4 hours - day and night! Thank God she was good - just stood there and put up with it. I have been trying to post a pic of Dior but am having problems with the size restrictions...I will keep trying to figure it out....Ann
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annm
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Posted on Friday, Feb 27, 2009 - 3:57 pm:
Hi Jos, for some reason your name sounds familiar - have you been involved in the Keurings in the NW?
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annm
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Posted on Friday, Feb 27, 2009 - 4:06 pm:
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paardex
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Posted on Friday, Feb 27, 2009 - 4:33 pm:
I've been participating in many 'keuringen' but in Holland and only with KWPN and Holsteiners[Germany] I don't know what NW would be
Jos
PS Very nice Friesian though!
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stek
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Posted on Friday, Feb 27, 2009 - 5:59 pm:
Thanks Ann, I wonder what the reason for the fertility issues, sounds like it is common across the breed. Glad you finally got her settled!
Jos I think she means the Northwest US (by NW) .. Ann I see you are in Washington, what part? I am in Olympia, soaking up the sun while I can today 
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annm
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Posted on Friday, Feb 27, 2009 - 6:13 pm:
Hi Shannon....I am in Vancouver....soak up those rays of sun while you can, the clouds are moving in ...
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36541
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Posted on Friday, Feb 27, 2009 - 6:49 pm:
Hi Ann, I had a sneaky mare that I circumvented with the Breeder Alert halter device. Worked like a charm, has been stored ever since as I am out of the home breeding business. If you are interested, could sell it used for a good price. Check out www.breederalert.com, especially if you are foaling at home and are the only night watchman! Stacy
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paardex
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Posted on Friday, Feb 27, 2009 - 7:49 pm:
Thanks Shannon! Friesians got a lot of problems because they were nearly extinct in the 1950's the genepool was very small and inbreeding was very heavy.
The Breeder alarm certainly works like a charm![If your mare doesn't take exception to carrying around the tiny box on her halter, mine took about a week to agree that it wasn't deadly]
Jos
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annm
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Posted on Friday, Feb 27, 2009 - 10:24 pm:
Hi Stacy - thanks for the great idea. I E-Mailed you about it. And, how did you know I was the only night watchman....LOL
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leslie1
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Posted on Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 - 11:01 am:
Hey guys,
What was the name of that website that watches your mare, for foaling?
It was neat, but I cant remember the name.
Lovely mare BTW!!! Teeheee, cant wait to see the foal too
Leslie
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annm
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Posted on Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 - 12:04 pm:
I think the website you are referring to is Mare Stare ... I am also thinking about how to rig that up so maybe you can help me keep an eye on her. She has a paint 'girlfriend' by the name of Purdee in the field with her now but Dior hates to be confined in an enclosure. I'll have to figure something out soon tho - her milk machines are starting to charge up ...
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savage
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Posted on Sunday, Mar 1, 2009 - 10:54 am:
Hi AnnM, yes the site is Marestare.com and you can email heather@marestare.com for information on getting set up. A great place to be
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bvrcrk4
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Posted on Friday, Apr 24, 2009 - 9:39 pm:
Hi Ann, I also have a Friesian mare due in May, and she was terribly hard to settle! We had one other foal from her, and the birth was uncomplicated. The placenta did take longer than the average to pass, but was normal, and no retained parts.
One thing that I found the first time round is a book called "The Complete Book of Foaling" by Karen Hayes DVM, who is also a Friesian breeder. It's a good book in general, with good advice about how to prepare for foaling etc. but she also had some advice I haven't found anywhere else. She suggests taking the mare's temperature morning and evening (at the same time), and watching for a DrOp of more than 0.5 degrees. This can signal foaling within 18-24 hours. We tried that the first time with our mare, and it worked. We are trying it again, and we'll see if it works twice!
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mrose
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Posted on Friday, Apr 24, 2009 - 11:43 pm:
Ann, although I bred Arabians, I loved Dr. Hayes book and highly recommend it for any one whos is going to be foaling, no matter how much experience you've had. While on the subject, I like Blessed are the Broodmares and the follow-up book on foals, but can't remember who wrote them.
Beautiful horse,Ann M.
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sdms
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Posted on Saturday, Apr 25, 2009 - 4:28 pm:
Hi Ladies, I have and love both Blessed are the Broodmares and Blessed are the Foals. They are by Dr. M. Phyllis Lose...but I wouldn't know that if they weren't here on the desk!
I guess I'm going to have to pick up Dr. Hayes' book, too. The more information I'm armed with at foaling time each year...the better!
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