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Discussion on Anyone belong to Parelli's "Savy Club"?
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juliem
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Posted on Saturday, Apr 7, 2007 - 11:24 pm:
Do any of you subscribe to Pat Parelli's "Savy Club?" It looks interesting, but at $20.00 a month it seems really pricey. Would love to hear any comments one way or the other. I love doing ground work but I'm not very creative about giving my horses and myself new challenges beyond the usual stuff. I usually have at least one yearling that I'm working with, so I like to keep it interesting. One of the two year olds I sold this spring was like that girl in your English class who always wrecked the grading curve. I decided I really needed to be more creative to challenge her--she was the most trainable horse I've ever worked with.
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scooter
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Posted on Sunday, Apr 8, 2007 - 11:13 am:
Hi Julie, I don't subscribe to the savy club, so I can't help you there. I have seen it in action tho and in the PROPER hands I think Parelli is great.
When my horse was broke years ago by a parelli trainer I was quite impressed. I audited the Savy club members in action and it is quite impressive.
I have also seen Parelli done improperly and the results were less then favorable.
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terrilyn
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Posted on Sunday, Apr 8, 2007 - 12:40 pm:
Hi Julie--
I was a member last year and I would have to say it is worth the money (interestingly, if you've noticed, Clinton Anderson has just set up the very same type of "club" for 19.99 a month...I think I'm remembering that price right.) I like the seven free tickets to one tour stop per year, the DVDs, and the magazine. As well, you get good discounts on products such as the home study kits and Parelli courses.
I think Parelli's system of teaching is the strongest, most user-friendly on the market. You start at the beginning and progress through clearly delineated steps; their home study courses are put together extremely well. In my opinion, Parelli puts it out there better and more creatively than anyone else...he must have some very talented instructional designers and marketing people working for him. And if you "take the time it takes" and are diligent and don't take shortcuts, you'll see amazing results. All NH hinges on pressure, release, feel, common sense--and Parelli's system is really very good at helping you understand those things through clear language and a PLAN.
I say that to point out that (in my experience anyway) it's hard to start as a Savvy Club consumer without having FIRST learned the basics that begin with the seven games and everything you learn in Level 1. I see the Savvy Club as a great tool that keeps the creativity stoked, but you've got to have the foundation first. If at all possible, find other people in your area that are "PP" (Parelli People!) and see if you can hook up with them in practicing and learning. It helps a lot.
Good luck with it!
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juliem
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Posted on Sunday, Apr 8, 2007 - 1:27 pm:
I do have the Level one and two courses--the older versions, and my horses are all pretty solid with them. I'm just looking for additional things to do, mostly with the yearlings, which are "projects" that I take on and then move them on as two year olds to good homes as solid minded, safe youngsters ready to start under saddle.
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kathleen
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Posted on Sunday, Apr 8, 2007 - 2:20 pm:
Julie,
I have been a member for approximately 4 years, I agree with what Terry said and think you would really get a lot out of joining the club. The dvds, magazine, discounts, all are worth the price of the monthly dues and you will find all kinds of new and novel ways to interest nad challenge your horse (and you).
Kathleen
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adriaa
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Posted on Sunday, Apr 8, 2007 - 3:41 pm:
I too am a Savvy club member. I think until you are a solid "savvy" person there's not much there. The monthly DVD's are fun though. For someone like you Julie, it would be good. They have all sorts of challenges on the Savvy part of the website. I did invest in the new Level 1 (got the Level 2 free), and I'm pretty impressed on how well thought out the system is. I agree with Terri about the course designing, marketing, packaging and how much effort they have put into it.
My girl already knows a lot already, Yo-Yo, Porcupine Game, she was NH trained before I got her, I am starting from the beginning though. We've started the Friendly game, she's very "savvy" herself and mostly a Left brain horse.
Unfortunately there are no PP around me, so I'm a bit alone. At my barn it's pretty much get on and ride. But I want to really build a solid relationship with her. I really hope I don't goof up
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terrilyn
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Posted on Sunday, Apr 8, 2007 - 4:36 pm:
Adria--do you think the nearly $200 (Savvy price, of course!) for the new level 1 is a good investment? I'm really kicking it around...I get some help a few times a month from a Level 2 student, but we're working from the old material...I feel like the DVDs would really be a great asset...I just have a hard time parting with the $$$. You're pleased with it??
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adriaa
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Posted on Sunday, Apr 8, 2007 - 9:14 pm:
Terri, I don't know what the old Level 1 program contained, but I suspect a lot of what is in the new L1 is the stuff with Dr. Stefanie Burns which addresses the human element, dealing with your feelings, fear, stuff like that. So, I can't really answer your question that well. The DVD's are great, classroom stuff and work with horses. Did the old L1 have DVD's?
The whole Parelli program is pretty slick, they merge the Parelli idea and method with a "corporate" conference type thing, like where execs go and get all pumped up with go get'em stuff. Very precise and clear. It is expensive, but something you can always go back to.
I do think you get what you pay for. I got mine on the March special, and I got Level 2 thrown in for free, so that was good.
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melis1
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Posted on Monday, Apr 9, 2007 - 9:00 am:
Julie,
Hi, I have also belonged to the Savvy Club for the past several years. I love the DVDs and the magazine. I have both the old level 1 and the newer one. The newer one has a lot more info packed into it...lots of adult learning stuff and more about the actual mechanics of riding. I recommend it. I don't have the newer level 2 (just the old one).
I've benefited so much from studying the Parelli method and feel that my relationship with my horses has grown too. That being said I do have some negative feelings. I don't like the idea that you should only be following their method and I've become more discouraged concerning the cost of all their products (especially the cost to attend their live courses). Do they really need to charge $1000.00 for a DVD on horse psychology?
I also like Clinton Anderson. I recently joined his Club. His style of teaching is a little more black and white. The cost is similar but there are built in discounts if you join for a longer time. His forum is very good too...it is not as tightly moderated as Parelli's and Clinton occasionally reads and participates on the forum (which I think is really cool). I also like the fact that Clinton encourages people to learn as much as they can about horsemanship from a variety of sources.
So for now I'll belong to both groups.
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lilo
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Posted on Monday, Apr 9, 2007 - 10:00 am:
I used to belong to the Savvy Club, several years ago when it was not so expensive.
The Parelli system has helped me a lot with my horses, but, just like Mellissa, I reject the idea that their method is the one and only correct one.
I have two free tickets to their next tour stop in Colorado (got them at the Horse Expo) and I might go.
I do use their equipment. It is well made and worth the money. However, we have very few Parelli trainers left in this area, and it is helpful to work with a trainer, especially when starting out.
I don't know anything about the newer materials. They just are too expensive for me.
I have started watching the 1/2 hour shows on RFDTV, which give students 4 tasks in 4 minutes, and then either Pat or Linda work with the students on the tasks that need improvement. There are some fun ideas in those.
Lilo
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dres
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Posted on Monday, Apr 9, 2007 - 10:40 am:
Just wanted to add my two cents.. I think there is a lot to be learned from all the NH out there.. what I hate about them is the PR and costs of it all.. There was a time a gazillion years ago when it was not cost prohibitive now its full of infomercials and products that you MUST have..
I just recently went to Clint Andersons clinic that was only $25.00 for two days.. a breath of fresh air in my opinion.. and I gained a ton of info and re learned a ton for that $25.00 ..
Luckily for me.. my trainer does NH with all her horses in training.. So I get the lovely advantage of having her back my young ones AND teaching them and me the NH stuff.. it works! My horses have more confidence after they have learned these methods then when they did not...
On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with spots..
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terrilyn
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Posted on Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 - 3:47 pm:
I agree with Lilo and Melissa...that is what I DON'T like about Parelli...it does seem to foster exlusivity and because of that, discourages people to partake of the NH buffet...Even though the stuff is very creative, in a way, I think it can discourage thinking "outside the Parelli box." I am very tempted to buy the new Level 1, but I have not because of the price...and because I'm not too hip on the "only one way" approach. I've observed that lots of people start out with Parelli, then "graduate" to incorporating other things they've learned (Anderson, Cox, Reis, Goodnight, Cameron, Pate, they're all great!). As Ann points out, Anderson is a breath of fresh air...but I don't like everything about him either. (I think he clobbers horses a little too enthusiastically...) I think Parelli is a terrific starting point...but anyone with horse experience knows that there about 100 ways to lead a horse to water...and get him to drink. 
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