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Discussion on Hobbles for stall kicking..?
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Dres
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Posted on Friday, Oct 24, 2003 - 10:36 am:
i have a young horse that is out in pasture most of the year.. BUT hates being in the stall in the winter months...actually hates being confined at all... trailer he paws... cross ties he paws...
he has done damage to the stalls/trailer and to himself with this aggressive pawing/kicking... i am wondering about using hobbles with surgical tubes tied to them.. thus he will have some flexibility ( less dangerous??? ) but will be pulling on his other leg as well.. that has to be uncomfortable and i would hope take the fun out of pawing...
i remember doing this ''years'' ago with the hackney ponies.. my uncle said it built strength in the horses legs for high stepping.. i was young so went with it.. 
so now i am thinking that this might work for aggressive kicking...
any comments/thoughts on this idea..??
Ann
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Jojo15
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Posted on Friday, Oct 24, 2003 - 11:36 pm:
Try a search on this site for kicking in stalls. I remember some good info way back when...
I created ankle wraps with chain attached to it. Every time my mare kicked she would get a rap from the chain... She doesn't kick anymore. I bought a thick small dog collar and sewed in some fleece and then added 8 inches of chain. They also sell them pre-made in catalogs. Check past posts, if you can't find anything i can send you a pic.
I wouldn't use hobbles for this. You should only use hobbles when you are with the horse, not unattended in a stall. Or for correction purposes. then if you ever need to use them for another reason they lost their effectiveness.
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Dres
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Posted on Saturday, Oct 25, 2003 - 1:06 am:
joj, i did read your post and others on stall kicking... yes there are some great ideas...this gelding kicks any wall not just one so the hanging of the mat is not a good idea... i read yours about the dog collar and chains... that sounds better then hanging a horse shoe from the collar ( which i read somewhere too)... how thick/heavy were your chains.. more then one hanging..??
could you post a picture here.. ?
thanks.. as winter is creeping up on me and i would like to get this fixed..
Ann
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Jojo15
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Posted on Saturday, Oct 25, 2003 - 4:45 pm:
I wanted to get back with you but don't have the time to figure out how to upload today. The below site has good pics, but my chains would be double in length than what is shown. and I did it for half the cost. The size of the chain would be the next size up, then the ones shown. but if you have a dainty horse than the size shown would be fine. It has to have some snap to it when they kick. Otherwise it isn't useful. But not too much where they can really hurt themself. It took about a month of using them. And I noticed that her kicking while being in season was the worst. But she hasn't kicked in about a year. I don't know how useful these are to stop pawing and have never used chains on the front.
Hope this helps a bit.
https://www.fourwinds.net/accessor/jt549062.html
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Dres
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Posted on Saturday, Oct 25, 2003 - 5:04 pm:
great site.. ok i looked them up... are you talking about the single long chain that hangs from the hobble? or the multi-chains (small links)... how funny they have the hobbles with the medical rubber tubing we used as a kid, that you can order.. and i thought my uncle was so clever..!
my horse has 9 inch cannon bones so i don't believe his is the dainty type... but i am wondering if the chains will do much for him, as he is such a play boy and will, i am thinking, take fun in them on his legs.! maybe hanging a small shoe that will do some real banging might be in order...
do you think i could leave something like this on over night, or will he get caught up in them when getting up from laying down..??
just when i think i got this horse under control, he figures something else out to make our lives creative...like now standing with front legs in his 150 gal water tank and somehow dumping it over..!! ( two times in as many days now)
thanks .. Ann
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Sparky
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Posted on Sunday, Oct 26, 2003 - 2:44 pm:
Ann - I had to put my gelding in a kicking chain when he shattered his rear splint bone and we had to remove it. He was a menace with his bandages and kept kicking and they would DrOp. He lived in his kicking chain for over 6 weeks and we had no problem - ours had the fleece lining. I would be a little leary of leaving the ones with the rubber tubing on overnight. Good luck
Janet Schmidt
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Dres
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Posted on Sunday, Oct 26, 2003 - 2:55 pm:
Janet, how long is the chain? does it touch the ground? do you put the collar around the cannon bone? how heavy is the link of the chain.? i am thinking of making my own instead of buying one..??
thanks...
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Sparky
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Posted on Monday, Oct 27, 2003 - 6:52 pm:
Ann - the vet lent me the chain so I don't know what weight it is but I will go to the hardware store and check the size there for you - another friend lent me one also but it was a lot lighter in weight - the one I used was pretty heavy duty and the chain was about 6" long and was right around his ankle. So yes it drags on the ground and he did step on it for a bit until he got used to moving around.
Janet
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Sparky
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Posted on Tuesday, Oct 28, 2003 - 12:30 am:
Ann - it just happened that I went to a wine and cheese party for the opening of our new Canadian Tire store in town tonight so I wandered down the chain isle! I figure that the size of chain that was on the single hobble that I used was 1/4 or 5/16 - the whole thing was pretty skookum - the leather band with the sheepskin lining was at least 2" wide. Hope this helps and good luck - keep us posted
Janet
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