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Member:
Tkranch

Posted on Wednesday, Dec 3, 2003 - 4:29 pm:

Last year I found a breeding facility that had a stallion I wanted to breed my mare to. I paid the breeding fee and was told the contract would be made later.We DrOve her there and left her a week for breeding which cost us additional boarding. We ended up taking her back for another week because she didn't take the first time. When she was there the 2nd time I happened to stop by when they were breeding her. I took her home and was told to keep in touch, which I did by calling several times (they never contacted me). She delivered a colt in June. I contacted them again to let them know. I never heard from them. We got all the papers together for the registeries and decided to hand deliver them. The facility was empty. I found a kid that told me where the manager was now working. We found the place and gave her the papers. She said she would take care of them and notify the stallion's owner.I called twice after that leaving messages.
Five months later and no word from anyone. I have explained,several times, to the manager that the colt is for sale and I need to get the paperwork done to get him registered and sold. I still haven't heard from anyone.
I have kept track of phone calls and letters. I have a copy of the check for the stud fee and the boardings.
How can I get this resolved or how can I find out who the stallion's owner is?
This was our first time at breeding---perhaps our last.
Thankyou,
Kat
Member:
Steveb

Posted on Wednesday, Dec 3, 2003 - 6:00 pm:

I assume you made out the check to the breeding facility owner. If so, that's who you should be after--the ex-manager has no interest in helping you, and is obviously just giving you the run-around. The stallion's owner's name should be available from his registration number and/or freeze brand. You could also ask the Vet.
Member:
Tkranch

Posted on Wednesday, Dec 3, 2003 - 7:14 pm:

Thank you for getting back to me so quickly.
Actually the farm facility has a name and the manager owns the business part (I believe)of training etc. which has another name.(Although she lives there still).
I made the check out to her business(which has her last name). Infact the check was signed by her.
Thankyou,
kat
Member:
Mrose

Posted on Wednesday, Dec 3, 2003 - 9:35 pm:

I don't know what breed you are dealing with, but most registries will give you a horse's owner name if you have reg. #. Some will act as intermediary instead of giving you direct access to owner. Most registries, if told your circumstances, will be helpful.

And...next time, don't do anything until you've seen a breeding contract! I would never pay anything towards a breeding fee, until I'd seen a contract. It protects both the stallion owner and mare owner. As a stallion owner I wouldn't breed a mare until her owner had signed the contract.

I wonder how much of this the stallion owner is aware of? If I had a stallion whose clients were being treated this way, I'd be pretty upset.

Out of curiosity, were you asked to show paperwork re: your mare's breeding health? vacination status? Anything? Were you given any guarantees re: the sexual health of the stallion? (They can pass on a STD and some genetic disorders.)A live foal guarantee or rebreeding if the foal didn't live more than 48 hrs.?

There's some good info Dr. O. has on breeding. Don't let this sour you. Just have your eyes open next time. Sorry you had such a bad experience.

Good luck.
Member:
Tkranch

Posted on Saturday, Dec 20, 2003 - 3:16 pm:

I took your advice and wrote to the Andalusian registry. They called me back and said they would discuss it with the president and registrar and then send me a letter. I mentioned that the owner of the stallion may not know about the breeding which concerned them alot. I hope they can do something to help me out.
I have been suspicious of this since day one when they didn't have a contract but I am a trusting person. Well, lesson learned. I just hope it works out right so I can sell the colt.

Many Thanks for your advice.
Kat Sample
Member:
Mrose

Posted on Saturday, Dec 20, 2003 - 4:29 pm:

Hopefully, the registry will come through for you. What a bummer. Probably you have a nice colt, too, which is great-except that he won't be worth much if you can't get him registered. Your experience is a lesson to all...hope it works out o.k.
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