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Discussion on How to get papers of sale barn mare.
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New Member: Dabrown
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Posted on Sunday, Jun 27, 2004 - 6:21 pm:
I AM IN THE PROCESS OF BUYING A WARMBLOOD GELDING FROM FRANCE. HE IS A REGISTERED SELLE FRANCAIS, BUT THE OWNER, WHO LIVES IN FRANCE, HAS HIS PAPERS. THE HORSE HAS BEEN AT A STABLE HERE IN AMERICA FOR ABOUT 2 YEARS AND APPARENTLY THIS OWNER IN FRANCE "OWES" THE BARN MANAGER (WHO IS ALSO THE INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBLE FOR SELLING THE FRENCHMAN'S HORSES HERE IN AMERICA). THE BARN MANAGER IS THE FRENCHMAN'S AGENT IN THE SALE OF THIS WM TO ME. HE HAS SEVERAL OTHER HORSES FROM THIS INDIVIDUAL IN FRANCE AND THE BARN MANAGER TOLD ME THAT THE FRENCHMAN OWES HIM A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY FROM UNPAID STABLE BILLS AND TRAINING OF THESE HORSES. MY QUESTION IS: HOW DO I PROTECT MYSELF SO THAT I DO GET THE WM'S PAPERS (AND PASSPORT AS THE WM WAS SHIPPED FROM FRANCE) WHEN I MAKE THE FINAL PAYMENT TO THE AGENT? WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR ADVICE!
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Moderator: DrO
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Posted on Monday, Jun 28, 2004 - 6:41 am:
The answer can be as simple as you do not give them the money until you have the papers in your hand Deborah. Otherwise you will need to contact a local lawyer to see where you stand with the law. DrO
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Member: Imogen
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Posted on Monday, Jun 28, 2004 - 8:50 am:
Even with the papers in your hand you might want a vet to confirm the markings are correct between the horse and the passport... ie that the passport you are getting refers to the horse you are getting... Imogen
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Member: Imogen
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Posted on Monday, Jun 28, 2004 - 8:54 am:
Hmm. I just read the original post on this thread. The situation here in Ireland is that the only way you can get duplicate papers involves DNA testing which can only be done if you have details of both parents, and where both parents have also been DNA typed. I have an unpassported mare I'd love to register but I can't because I know nothing about the dam although I am sure she is by the sire that I was told when I bought her. I can only get what's called a "blue" or supplementary passport for the purpose of registering performance points and vaccinations. All the best Imogen
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